Signs?MEME's and the like!

[mrveggieman]

Wouldn't that be an "infringement"?

Not really. I'm kind of like you and don't like the all or nothing attitude of both sides of the gun argument. I stand in firm support of the second amendment but I would be ok with a few minor tweeks.

[Wickabee]

Not really. I'm kind of like you and don't like the all or nothing attitude of both sides of the gun argument. I stand in firm support of the second amendment but I would be ok with a few minor tweeks.

But it means anyone who cannot afford insurance won't be able to obtain a gun. Would that not infringe their "right" to own a gun? Doesn't any sort of monetary charge infringe on that "right"? It doesn't say the rights of the people to buy a gun shall not be infringed, but own a gun.

If it's a right, why doesn't the government give out a gun with every birth?

[mrveggieman]

But it means anyone who cannot afford insurance won't be able to obtain a gun. Would that not infringe their "right" to own a gun? Doesn't any sort of monetary charge infringe on that "right"? It doesn't say the rights of the people to buy a gun shall not be infringed, but own a gun.

If it's a right, why doesn't the government give out a gun with every birth?

That's just like any other insturment. If you cannot afford it you wont be able to buy it.

[Wickabee]

That's just like any other insturment. If you cannot afford it you wont be able to buy it.

Exactly. If it's a "right" to own one, then forcing people to buy one first in an infringement of the right.
Just like voter ID laws are a poll tax.

[mrveggieman]

Exactly. If it's a "right" to own one, then forcing people to buy one first in an infringement of the right.
Just like voter ID laws are a poll tax.

Nice try try but wrong answer. A driver's liscence/state ID is purchased directly from the state. So you are paying the state for an item that you must have which is a round about way of having a poll tax which violates the 24th amendment. You are getting your firearms insurance from a prive company like allstate or state farm. Keep reaching you will grab on to something eventually.

[Wickabee]

Nice try try but wrong answer. A driver's liscence/state ID is purchased directly from the state. So you are paying the state for an item that you must have which is a round about way of having a poll tax which violates the 24th amendment. You are getting your firearms insurance from a prive company like allstate or state farm. Keep reaching you will grab on to something eventually.

So if driver's licences were privatised you'd have no problem with voter ID laws?

[mrveggieman]

So if driver's licences were privatised you'd have no problem with voter ID laws?

Would they also be free to anyone who desires one?

[Wickabee]

Would they also be free to anyone who desires one?

Obviously not. But it wouldn't be a tax because the government wouldn't collect. You can go as far to make them tax exempt if you like. But what you're saying, as I understand you, is that taxation is an infringement, but capitalism is not.
So with that in mind, actually answer a question, please.

[MadMan1978]

[Wickabee]

Easily?