The Standard "It's time to talk MVP" Thread

griff2311 · 03-18-2009, 04:52 PM

Whew, done will a killer term of school and i get a little time to chat with hockey brain trust we have here at SCF. School has kept that to a minimum since Christmas.

Ok lets talk MVP. I'm a little baffled that all i read is Ovie is the run away winner for the Hart. Not to take anything away from the year hes had. I don't think he is a runaway winner.

So i say hes not the runaway winner than who should be considered.

Darkhorse:

Zach Parise

I barely ever see this kids name come up. He has the quietest 40 goal season in a long time. Why? Who knows. His team has all but cliched the Atlantic division and if trends continue up until the start of the playoffs, the Devils will be the team to beat in the East. Who saw that coming.

On the hunt:

Pavel Datsuyk, Sidney Crosby

Talk about steady as they go. Night in night out 110 percent all the time. They give their teams the back bone to excel when it comes to making their teammates better and playing both ends of the ice. Not to mention both have 87,92 points respectively.

He's got Hart:

Alexander Ovechkin

49 goals, 90 points. Beastly totals, and public enemy number one when your team is down a man. He has led the caps to their second conference title in as many years. He changes teams game pans and you can never over look that.

And the award goes to:

Evgeni Malkin

70 assists, 102 points. Where crosby has provided the heart Malkin provides the soul. The pens are quickly becoming his team, he has stpped into a leadership role for his team and they have responed. A constant threat at both ends of the ice, power play, and penatly kill. You name it this guy can do it.

It may be looked at as bias to put malkin over ovechkin but the guys are virtually identical (you can argue for either guy) if you compare stats alone. Malkin was just the more complete player this year. He picks up a lot penalty kill time and is a beast playing defense in his own zone. Yea comparing a winger to a center defensively isnt apple to apples, but its not just centers that are nominated and win Selkes.

Id like to hear everyone elses arguements. Who did i leave out and who did i not give enough credit to. Its that time of year the MVP chants start comming out.

senrab · 03-18-2009, 05:22 PM

Mason
Malkin
Ovie

geschrocks33 · 03-18-2009, 06:22 PM

My opinion on top 3 candidates...Ovie, Malkin, Parise

Parise is a sleeper. Most people don't notice his stats.

Obviously they are gonna give it to Malkin, because he has the most points. I don't think he fully deserves it, just for getting 70 assists.

Ovie plays with 100% more intensity and love for the game...and he hits, a lot.

Ovie all around deserves it, but who knows what will happen.

Mason is great but I don't think he'll get MVP. Maybe Vezina, but Calder for sure.

cnshockey · 03-18-2009, 06:40 PM

i think mvp will for sure be russian. between ovie and malkin. i think if ovie can put up 60 he wins for sure. who knows. will be a tight race

**doniceage** · 03-18-2009, 08:17 PM

Well let see how it plays out in the homestretch (last 2 weeks). As that will be the deciding factor as people love goals better than assist and if OVY can lay a number that makes people take notice he has it. If Malkin can put up some sweet numbers like a gme or two he could easily hit 120 which cannot be ignored. Of course with voters it almost impossible to know how they will vote.

DON

Supercarlover · 03-19-2009, 04:26 PM

My heart goes for Parise (gotta cheer for the quiet work-horse). But, my guess is....well.....I don't have one. I don't think Parise will get it, though. As has been mentioned before...between Oven-chicken and Malkin. :)

Nashrules · 03-19-2009, 05:48 PM

if jackets make the 4 seed, they have to consider mason. if not id have to say ovie, because without him the caps are very average. without malkin the pens still have crosby.

senrab · 03-19-2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nashrules

if jackets make the 4 seed, they have to consider mason. if not id have to say ovie, because without him the caps are very average. without malkin the pens still have crosby.

Caps also have suspect goaltending, IMO. Their goal-scoring makes up for it most nights when the goalies aren't doing well

wolf1bh · 03-20-2009, 01:53 AM

its really too close to call! the last 3 weeks will be big

sgazi · 03-20-2009, 02:30 AM

Geno! Geno! Geno!

03-18-2009, 04:52 PM	#1
griff2311 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 520 Trader Rating: (20 ) View my Trade List My Card Inventory Card Cash: 50.00	The Standard "It's time to talk MVP" Thread Whew, done will a killer term of school and i get a little time to chat with hockey brain trust we have here at SCF. School has kept that to a minimum since Christmas. Ok lets talk MVP. I'm a little baffled that all i read is Ovie is the run away winner for the Hart. Not to take anything away from the year hes had. I don't think he is a runaway winner. So i say hes not the runaway winner than who should be considered. Darkhorse: Zach Parise I barely ever see this kids name come up. He has the quietest 40 goal season in a long time. Why? Who knows. His team has all but cliched the Atlantic division and if trends continue up until the start of the playoffs, the Devils will be the team to beat in the East. Who saw that coming. On the hunt: Pavel Datsuyk, Sidney Crosby Talk about steady as they go. Night in night out 110 percent all the time. They give their teams the back bone to excel when it comes to making their teammates better and playing both ends of the ice. Not to mention both have 87,92 points respectively. He's got Hart: Alexander Ovechkin 49 goals, 90 points. Beastly totals, and public enemy number one when your team is down a man. He has led the caps to their second conference title in as many years. He changes teams game pans and you can never over look that. And the award goes to: Evgeni Malkin 70 assists, 102 points. Where crosby has provided the heart Malkin provides the soul. The pens are quickly becoming his team, he has stpped into a leadership role for his team and they have responed. A constant threat at both ends of the ice, power play, and penatly kill. You name it this guy can do it. It may be looked at as bias to put malkin over ovechkin but the guys are virtually identical (you can argue for either guy) if you compare stats alone. Malkin was just the more complete player this year. He picks up a lot penalty kill time and is a beast playing defense in his own zone. Yea comparing a winger to a center defensively isnt apple to apples, but its not just centers that are nominated and win Selkes. Id like to hear everyone elses arguements. Who did i leave out and who did i not give enough credit to. Its that time of year the MVP chants start comming out. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I need your help: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Will always entertain offers of pittsburgh penguins. Currently looking specifically for kris letang, maxime talbot and alex goligoski.

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geschrocks33 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 9,123 Blog Entries: 1 Trader Rating: (175 ) Ebay ID: metalica7 View my Trade List My Card Inventory Card Cash: 345.00	My opinion on top 3 candidates...Ovie, Malkin, Parise Parise is a sleeper. Most people don't notice his stats. Obviously they are gonna give it to Malkin, because he has the most points. I don't think he fully deserves it, just for getting 70 assists. Ovie plays with 100% more intensity and love for the game...and he hits, a lot. Ovie all around deserves it, but who knows what will happen. Mason is great but I don't think he'll get MVP. Maybe Vezina, but Calder for sure. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Looking for Cal Clutterbuck, Ryan Miller, Paul Stastny, Lee Stempniak, Marc-Andre Gragnani, and Current Sabres Bucket: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Tradelist: (Updated) To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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doniceage <B>Off Site Relations Manager</B> Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 29,341 Blog Entries: 9 Trader Rating: (409 ) View my Trade List My Card Inventory Card Cash: 5,638.55	Well let see how it plays out in the homestretch (last 2 weeks). As that will be the deciding factor as people love goals better than assist and if OVY can lay a number that makes people take notice he has it. If Malkin can put up some sweet numbers like a gme or two he could easily hit 120 which cannot be ignored. Of course with voters it almost impossible to know how they will vote. DON __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Looking for 08/09 BTP points. Have any drop me a pm. Thanks!! Actions are backed up by words, I wish more of us backed them up!!! Want to join the SCF Off Site Team. Drop me a line!!

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