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    There are several liberals who post in this forum with whom I routinely disagree, but I know I'm having a discussion with a reasonable, logical person. I think mrv has officially taken the step into GBM territory (although, for different reasons) where it is absolutely pointless to attempt to engage him in rational conversation. Mrv, you used to not be this way. I really do not understand your regression in recent months.

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    There are several liberals who post in this forum with whom I routinely disagree, but I know I'm having a discussion with a reasonable, logical person. I think mrv has officially taken the step into GBM territory (although, for different reasons) where it is absolutely pointless to attempt to engage him in rational conversation. Mrv, you used to not be this way. I really do not understand your regression in recent months.

    Yeah, I agree with you. I think the true colors have been shown. May be best to debate with the few rational libs on here instead of stooping to that level....

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    This is the problem with you, you are so blinded that you do not listen. I would vote for Cain in a second. I've said many times he was one of my top picks. I'd vote for Allan West and Marco Rubio as well. It's about issues not color like it is for you. You've formed an ignorant opinion and can't see facts. Would I vote for Obama, no chance. He's a marxist taking us down the path of destruction.(by the way, he's as much white as black so the racist charge really doesn't fly) I wouldn't vote for reid, biden, dodd, frank, waxman, kucinich ect ect either. You always make things about race which says plenty about you..

    If he's a Marxist, he's the crappiest Marxist ever.

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    There are several liberals who post in this forum with whom I routinely disagree, but I know I'm having a discussion with a reasonable, logical person. I think mrv has officially taken the step into GBM territory (although, for different reasons) where it is absolutely pointless to attempt to engage him in rational conversation. Mrv, you used to not be this way. I really do not understand your regression in recent months.

    You can reference me by name, I don't mind.

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    If he's a Marxist, he's the crappiest Marxist ever.

    He's a new Hybrid, lol. He's just setting the framework.....

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    There are several liberals who post in this forum with whom I routinely disagree, but I know I'm having a discussion with a reasonable, logical person. I think mrv has officially taken the step into GBM territory (although, for different reasons) where it is absolutely pointless to attempt to engage him in rational conversation. Mrv, you used to not be this way. I really do not understand your regression in recent months.


    Ok since I am outspoken about mines just like our good buddy GBM I am dismissed. It's too bad though I actually look forward to mixing it up with you, sanfran and duane when I go to work everyday . I'm going to continue speaking my mind and if you ever feel up to the challange ya'll know where to find me.
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    Ok since I am outspoken about mines just like our good buddy GBM I am dismissed. It's too bad though I actually look forward to mixing it up with you, sanfran and duane when I go to work everyday . I'm going to continue speaking my mind and if you ever feel up to the challange ya'll know where to find me.

    There is a difference between speaking your mind and making irrational judgments about what people believe. If I say, "the sun rises in the East," and you respond, "No, you really think the sun rises in the West ," what kind of conversation do you think we are going to have?

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    He's a new Hybrid, lol. He's just setting the framework.....

    I guess I just don't see it. The biggest issue I have with President Obama is that a lot of times his actions just don't match his words. By listening to him, I could understand how someone could think he'd have Marxist tendencies (though I should say, anyone who claims to "fight for the working class" almost inevitably says something that could be construed as Marxism). However, when it comes to actions, he hasn't exactly stuck it to the bourgeois. The only thing he's really done is the creation of the CFPB, which is hardly taking massive amounts of money out of the pockets of Wall Street.

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    There is a difference between speaking your mind and making irrational judgments about what people believe. If I say, "the sun rises in the East," and you respond, "No, you really think the sun rises in the West ," what kind of conversation do you think we are going to have?


    You know we don't agree on that much if at all but I do enjoy debating with you. Some of my comments along with others on both sides of the fence may have been over the top but that's the nature of P/R. You can't take any of these people on here seriously. To be honest I believe that habs bought up that if there was a muslim claiming the same things that christians on here think he would debate against them too. I think that P/R needs some fresh blood besides the same old christians vs non christians or republicans vs democrats.

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    I guess I just don't see it. The biggest issue I have with President Obama is that a lot of times his actions just don't match his words. By listening to him, I could understand how someone could think he'd have Marxist tendencies (though I should say, anyone who claims to "fight for the working class" almost inevitably says something that could be construed as Marxism). However, when it comes to actions, he hasn't exactly stuck it to the bourgeois. The only thing he's really done is the creation of the CFPB, which is hardly taking massive amounts of money out of the pockets of Wall Street.

    Well here's what I see....
    1- He attended a marxist church
    2- endorsed socialist Bernie Sanders
    3-His close friends are tied to communism or socialism, Ayers, Davis, Palmer ect.
    4-He was endorsed by the socialist and communist parties of America (which I understand would probably be any dem)
    5 He aligns himself with socialist type policies like progressive tax, natioanl healthcare, Gov't corporate takeovers.
    6- He has stated he want's to turn the banks preferred stocks to common stocks controling flow of money.
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    8-He's mentioned he wants to change the structure of gov't to be a simple majority rather then the 60% required to pass legislation.
    9-He want's to remove private lending from student loans strengthening gov't control.
    10- Just listen to him talk of fairness and justice.....

    That's off the top of my head, I'm sure I could come up with alot more.

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