Peyton Manning via Foundation

[dscards]

I don't see much of a difference. If there is any, it is slight and I don't think would constitute TTM returns as "Fake." The TTM return used as an example in the original post is a baseball. I think the medium on which the signature is signed matters. A baseball, especially for a football player, is a bit more awkward to sign than a flat. I think with a item shaped as a baseball, more time would be taken into signing the item. Therefore, as a result, a more readable and clear signature vs. more rushed sigs on flats

I'm not saying this is "truth." Only my theory on that specific example.

Agree completely. Go pick up a baseball and try and sign it on the SS. Then sign a piece of paper. I promise you the two signatures will have discrepancies simply because you are not used to writing on the curved surface of a baseball.
If you want to put a side by side comparison of a Steiner authenticated signed photo next to a TTM signed photo and make your argument, I'll listen. But right now you're comparing apples to oranges.
I have no doubt the TTM autographs are authentic based on my comparisons with certs and interviews with Manning. I don't really care what the opinion of 3rd Party Authenticators are..they're wrong way too often to trust.

[MSUspartans]

why would somebody have Peyton sign a baseball?

[RJ53]

Really we need someone doubting a autograph dont get it if its not real Jeez.

[marti427]

Plus a helmet isn't a flat, so the sig being different could fall upon those baseball reasoning as well. Plus why would they send out PP pictures at times when he was busy? I recall seeing one report in the TTM manager saying he got the PP and it was around the time he was having neck surgery.

[MVick7]

Not all of the manning ttm have failed JSA and PSA i have looked on other sites and they have passed here is on that passed, why why would they take your donations, why would they send your item back with a pri print. thats why they are real. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Peyton-Manni...item4ab048196f

[MSUspartans]

Plus a helmet isn't a flat, so the sig being different could fall upon those baseball reasoning as well. Plus why would they send out PP pictures at times when he was busy? I recall seeing one report in the TTM manager saying he got the PP and it was around the time he was having neck surgery.

I also got this

[Ryanpmeyer]

Has anyone ever sent a donation via check and had it cashed? It seems all check donations are returned!

[white2128]

http://www.steinersports.com/search....peyton+manning I have a Steiner authentic 8x10 and a TTM from Peyton. Nearly identical.

[MVick7]

They are real I don't know why people are saying its fake they match up to pack pulled autos, JSA, PSA, Steiner

[1990score]

FAKE!! and the reasons r simple. They have been stated in this thread. Quite simply they don't match his certified auto from his signings!!!!!!!