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    Jeb Bush: Self defence dosen't cover teen's death

    Wow even Jeb Bush chimed in on this. What do you have to say about that.

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    “Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn’t mean chase after somebody who’s turned their back.”

    I didn't realize that's what happened in this case, especially since the evidence indicates otherwise.
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    He flat out told 911 he was following him.
    "He's gone crazy," "You have to snap out of it," "Take your meds," or, "Don't be such a downer" serve only to mock, belittle, and make light of mental illness. Such phrases only continue the negative stigma and keep those who suffer from getting help. If these phrases, or phrases like them, are part of your at-hand vocabulary, you are part of the problem. #STOPtheStigma

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    then when 911 said to stop, he said ok. and a witness says trayvon came back to confront zimmerman.
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    What motive would Trayvon have to turn around and go after a guy who wasn't following him?
    "He's gone crazy," "You have to snap out of it," "Take your meds," or, "Don't be such a downer" serve only to mock, belittle, and make light of mental illness. Such phrases only continue the negative stigma and keep those who suffer from getting help. If these phrases, or phrases like them, are part of your at-hand vocabulary, you are part of the problem. #STOPtheStigma

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    the same motive to run when he was doing nothing wrong, the same reason he didn't call 911 when he thought a nut was following him

    maybe a teenage punk who thought he was a bad a**?

    or maybe you are right and he didn't come back and the witness is giving a false report because they are part of the cover up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wickabee View Post
    What motive would Trayvon have to turn around and go after a guy who wasn't following him?
    Because he knew that he was being followed, felt threatened by it, and wanted to make sure that it never happened again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrewsbury View Post
    the same motive to run when he was doing nothing wrong, the same reason he didn't call 911 when he thought a nut was following him
    So wait. Are you saying that anyone who runs is guilty? Man all the joggers I see in the morning must be horrible, horrible people.

    Or are you saying that everyone should always call 911 over the tiniest little thing? Maybe Trayvon didn't call 911 because he figured it was just some nut and the police don't need to be bothered?
    Maybe he just doesn't trust the police. Young black man being followed by someone with much lighter skin in Florida? Yeah, I probably wouldn't bother calling them either.

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    maybe a teenage punk who thought he was a bad a**?
    I hear he had a tattoo. That equals guilt right there.

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    or maybe you are right and he didn't come back and the witness is giving a false report because they are part of the cover up?
    This seems unlikely, but more likely than your other speculations.
    "He's gone crazy," "You have to snap out of it," "Take your meds," or, "Don't be such a downer" serve only to mock, belittle, and make light of mental illness. Such phrases only continue the negative stigma and keep those who suffer from getting help. If these phrases, or phrases like them, are part of your at-hand vocabulary, you are part of the problem. #STOPtheStigma

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTaxMan View Post
    Because he knew that he was being followed, felt threatened by it, and wanted to make sure that it never happened again.
    So the reason he attacked someone who wasn't following him at that point is because he knew he was being followed?

    That makes less than no sense.
    "He's gone crazy," "You have to snap out of it," "Take your meds," or, "Don't be such a downer" serve only to mock, belittle, and make light of mental illness. Such phrases only continue the negative stigma and keep those who suffer from getting help. If these phrases, or phrases like them, are part of your at-hand vocabulary, you are part of the problem. #STOPtheStigma

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrewsbury View Post
    then when 911 said to stop, he said ok. and a witness says trayvon came back to confront zimmerman.
    Did a witness actually say that?
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