The rise of atheism in america

[Star_Cards]

Are your friends holding out hope that you will convert? Or are they saying that you should get into heaven because you are living a good and moral life despite not having any religious beliefs?

I posted that as a hypothetical. I've never had a long chat with my friends about if they thought I'd get into heaven or not.

[Star_Cards]

I think how you believe you get to heaven is the whole basis of religion. Otherwise why would it exist?

I would hope that anyone who practices a specific religion would think that it has a great value during their life. Sure the ultimate goal would be heaven but wouldn't think it's the whole point of religion.

[fan4kc]

I would hope that anyone who practices a specific religion would think that it has a great value during their life. Sure the ultimate goal would be heaven but wouldn't think it's the whole point of religion.

So then what is?

[mrveggieman]

So then what is?

I think that he is saying that the ultimate goal is to get to heaven but by following your chosen religion you will also be blessed on earth and be a blessing to others.

[fan4kc]

I agree with that for sure. It is a way to live your life to reach the ultimate goal.

[Star_Cards]

So then what is?

are you asking what of religion has importance along with the final goal of getting into heaven? I guess that's up to each person and their beliefs. If I were religious I think I would find value in the religion's teachings as I lived every day. I suppose those are all indirectly applied in the ultimate goal of getting into heaven. I'm not saying that anyone does or doesn't and maybe I'm just hung up on your post.

[fan4kc]

Yes in my view all of religions teachings are to ultimately get to a goal, heaven.