View Poll Results: Who would you give the NL MVP to?
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09-14-2012, 03:52 PM #61
If you're going to say Molina is MVP, then what about Beltran and Holliday. Holliday is certainly having a better season, and one can argue that Beltran is as well.
09-14-2012, 05:16 PM #62
I'd still say Molina would be the MVP of the team because just like Posey as catcher he has so much more to do for the team than any of the other fielders. Just don't think he can be MVP of the entire league because offensively there is so much help around him. 4 of the other 7 position players have higher homerun and RBI totals than Molina (Beltran, Holliday, Freese and Craig). Posey is leading the current team in virtually every category. Take his bat out of the lineup now and you don't have any other teammates of his that have reached double figures in homeruns for the Giants
09-15-2012, 01:51 AM #63
Matt Kemp is 5 for his last 44. Yup, he deserves to be on this list. Not.
09-16-2012, 08:11 PM #64
Two home runs for Brauny, #200 and 201 in his career. Now at .312 with 30 doubles, 3 triples, 40 HR, 103 RBI, 24 stolen bases. Leads the NL in HR, SLG and OPS, second in RBI, runs, fifth in batting. And the Brewers are now 2 games out of the last playoff spot thanks to Braun and a sparkling performance by rookie Wily Peralta (2 hits and 0 runs over 8 IP).
Braun is the MVP.
09-26-2012, 10:55 PM #65
There shouldn't even be any discussion about this. Posey and McCutchen are having nice years, but Ryan Braun is CLEARLY the best player in the National League. And it's not even close.
.318 AVG 5th in NL
103 runs 2nd in NL
182 hits 3rd in NL
41 HR 1st in NL
110 RBI 1st in NL
.391 OBP 5th in NL
.603 SLG 1st in NL
.995 OPS 1st in NL
345 bases 1st in NL
78 XBH 1st in NL
130.8 runs created 1st in NL
8.55 runs created per 27 outs 1st in NL
.285 isolated power 1st in NL
.430 secondary average 1st in NL
It's silly to even discuss this. Ryan Braun is the NL MVP.
09-27-2012, 12:03 AM #66
09-27-2012, 01:47 AM #67
Kemp and Braun had numbers that were very close.
NOBODY in the National League has the numbers that Braun does this year. Nobody.
He is by far...by FAR...the best player in the National League this year. If he doesn't win it, it will be a travesty.
09-27-2012, 03:44 PM #68
Interesting that Andrew McCutchen is winning the voteTrade Bucket: Hidden Content
09-27-2012, 06:22 PM #69
09-28-2012, 01:16 AM #70
This year, the Brewers aren't doing as well, but they were 1.5 games out of the playoffs with 10 games left in the season. They were playing meaningful baseball in the context of post season aspirations, something Kemp did not do. And nobody is putting up the same numbers that Braun is. McCutchen was the MVP favorite for a while as his team was contending. They fell off a cliff, as did his numbers. He's rebounded nicely in the last two weeks, but the Pirates are going to finish below .500 again. A .330 AVG, 30 HR isn't going to do it on a sub .500 team.
As far as Posey goes, the Giants have or soon will clench the NL West. He's had a great year, but his offensive numbers are not close to Braun's. Average is higher, RBI are close, HR are not. And this "he plays the hardest position in baseball" narrative that people so often like to point out...well, he's an average defender at best. Braun actually has a higher fielding average (4.0) than Posey does (2.5) per fangraphs. And all this talk about Cabrera's Triple Crown run, Braun's not too far off a triple crown himself. He won't get it because his average isn't high enough (.319, and the NL leader is at .333), but he leads in HR and RBI. And SLG, and OPS.
Posey doesn't lead the NL in a single category.
Braun leads in six (HR, RBI, SLG, OPS, XBH, TB), and if you include sabermetrics, 8 (isolated and secondary power).
Also, according to fangraphs:
Ryan Braun 8.1 WAR
Buster Posey 7.0 WAR
Last edited by the 'stache; 09-28-2012 at 01:24 AM.