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  1. #31
    if ud did it and they are looking into, how is that going to solve anything??

    and now i am suspisious, seeing as the rnh is his jersey number, thats pretty unreal
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  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by bojohnson View Post
    if ud did it and they are looking into, how is that going to solve anything??

    and now i am suspisious, seeing as the rnh is his jersey number, thats pretty unreal
    Maybe ud is seeing if the seller is an employee or family of one?? That's the only logical thing I can think of, of why ud is
    Investigating a complaint on themselves lol

  3. #33
    You jealous people, this is pure luck, nothing more.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by thorni2 View Post
    You jealous people, this is pure luck, nothing more.

    Yep pure luck getting the 3 largest CASE HITS.

    Wheres the rest of the cases worth of cards and why are all of his auctions ended early because he doesn't have them anymore?

    Do you have any idea how many cases upon cases upon cases it would take to land those 3 Whales? Sure I believe in luck but thats not luck at all thats fishy.
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  5. #35
    Sad day for me. While I do believe in luck, I've learned that if it smells fishy, looks fishy, it usually is.
    I've never busted The Cup, but if this is happening with High End product, it could happen with the rest.
    I wonder where the RNH YG Exclusive 093/100 is...

    I guess I'll be watching this post for news before I spend another dollar on UD product. Hope the "UD investigation" is true.
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  6. #36
    Just received this via email


    Michael, Thanks for your message. We are already investigating this seller, but the thing is that none of these cards were ever at our Carlsbad facility. They were all received in and packed out of our North Carolina facility. Our Security team is talking with some of the people who have purchased these cards and working to determine how the seller came into possession of these cards. At this time however, it does not appear it is a "back door" issues as has been alleged. We will continue to review however. Sincerely, Chris Carlin Sports Marketing & Social Media Manager The Upper Deck Company 2251 Rutherford Road | Carlsbad, CA 92008 T: 760.929.3159 (NEW) | F: 760.929.3150
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  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by michaelpatko View Post
    Just received this via email


    Michael, Thanks for your message. We are already investigating this seller, but the thing is that none of these cards were ever at our Carlsbad facility. They were all received in and packed out of our North Carolina facility. Our Security team is talking with some of the people who have purchased these cards and working to determine how the seller came into possession of these cards. At this time however, it does not appear it is a "back door" issues as has been alleged. We will continue to review however. Sincerely, Chris Carlin Sports Marketing & Social Media Manager The Upper Deck Company 2251 Rutherford Road | Carlsbad, CA 92008 T: 760.929.3159 (NEW) | F: 760.929.3150
    this is my point though
    if it is a "back door" ud wouldnt tell us that lol

    point is, we will never know if its a "back door"
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  8. #38
    makes me really wonder how much product they dont release and just hang on to. For whatever the reason may be
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  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by bojohnson View Post
    this is my point though
    if it is a "back door" ud wouldnt tell us that lol

    point is, we will never know if its a "back door"
    If I was UD and I actually caught some group doing a back door sale I would announce it. Let's be honest. UD's reputation has been the teeniest bit tarnished recently. The various lawsuits, the immediate suspicion for back doors, the FBI transcripts. These don't really help UD's image.

    A scapegoat would be perfect right now. "No, we swear, its not Upper Deck that's causing all this trouble. We're a great bunch and we sell honest goods. It was all THAT GUY'S fault. And he's fired now so go sue him!"
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  10. #40
    There are many possibilities that can be taken out of this:

    1. A worker at UD took the cards and sold them to someone else
    2. A worker at UD took the cards and sold them himself (so the ebayer is the worker)
    3. He pulled the cards with luck
    4. He may have bought a couple of the cards off someone second hand from a forum

    This is for sure fishy, I'm not saying he DID NOT pull them by luck, as he very well could have, but its like seeing a player in baseball hit 2 homers a year for his first 10 seasons and then hit 50 in his eleventh. It'll be hard to believe that the player didnt take some sort of PED. Yea, its possible his skill got him the 50 homers, but unlikely.

    I think, in my opinion, that someone from UD took the cards and that the person is the ebayer.

    Lets hope UD figures it out. AND THE FACT THAT HE HAD NO OTHER CUP CARDS LISTED adds the the uncertainty.

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