10-19-2012, 03:36 AM #51
I actually blame this site for putting such emphasis on complete player collection because of the establishment of the Super Collector badge several years ago. The requirements for it drive me crazy. Should be excluding cards /10 or less in the # of cards with those being bonuses.
10-19-2012, 09:59 AM #52
Who are the super collectors and where can I find this information?
10-19-2012, 10:37 AM #53
This site has nothing to do with making people think that they have to become Super Collectors. Not even 1% of the Hockey collecting population comes on here.
You are doing Set collectors that are sitting on millions of dollars of 50's Parkhurst and Topps a complete injustice.
Last edited by centrehice; 10-19-2012 at 01:55 PM.
10-19-2012, 11:19 AM #54
10-19-2012, 12:20 PM #55
It was about a year ago I decided to move the Ryan collection into a "collect what I like" status (Only hard signed auto's, no non-duck multiplayer cards, no 1/1s, only patches etc), and now PC is fun again IMO. The reasons have been stated many times over by many SCF members, but the hobby won't change for those reasons.
10-20-2012, 02:06 AM #56
10-20-2012, 07:48 AM #57
10-20-2012, 11:15 AM #58
I can agree somewhat with the comments regarding the difficulty and expense to be a player collector. I just started into player collecting around 3 months ago, combined with pack ripping (which at the time when I changed my hobby to player collecting, I vowed to stop ripping wax :fighting0016:) it is very expensive.
10-23-2012, 12:11 PM #59
Diversification is the key to it all. Hopefully we all collect what we like and that can be a problem or a solution. If what you like is one player you may be screwed. When you get it all or at least all you can afford what do you do? In that case you may have to look a little deeper and try to find another player or another team or whatever. The problem with that is if its not a true passion and you pick it just to have something you can actively collect you will more than likely lose interest in it eventually. On the other hand, if you like too much stuff you may find yourself spreading anyone collection too thin and you might be disappointed with the results of that as well. None of your individual collections may show much growth so you get bored with it but as a whole you may have added a quite few cards across the board.
Honestly, I think the one thing most people overlook as a major reason for becoming disheartened with their collections is the high cost of the "best" cards. People mention the volume of cards produced or the lack of originality in design as problems. They constantly lament the fact that they pay $500.00 for a box of cards and cant sell the cards they get out of it for $250.00. They complain that the hot RC they bought last year for $250.00 is not worth $50.00 today. Well, at some point everyone has to question the sanity of paying $500.00 for a box of cards or $250.00 for a hot RC card and as you well know those prices are nothing nothing compared to what a lot of cards go for. Many people sit around and complain that they can't add anything to their collections because they can't afford all the autos and GU and low numbered cards and yet these same people would never consider cluttering up their collection with a worthless $3.00 base card. My reaction to all this is Boo freaking Hoo. A little harsh perhaps but when it comes to hobbies and something you freely choose to participate in I have very little sympathy for you when it doesn't go your way and you can do something about it and choose not to.
Having said all that I don't want the OP or the guy I responded to to think I am chiding them personally. I understand full well getting frustrated with collecting. I stopped for about 10 years from the mid 90's to the mid 2000s because of some of the same things I talked about. Cards were getting too expensive. There were too many to go after and the advent of the 1/1s made it almost impossible to realize my goal of having 1 of everything. The additional value that people were starting to put on the cards and the lottery type mentality along with the expectation that so many people have that they are entitled to make money on cards and boxes buy and if they can't hey are getting ripped off turned me off to the hobby and I didn't think I would ever come back. Well, I did come back, not in full force but I am back with lower, well not really lower but different expectations. All those things that drove me away are still there. If anything it has gotten worse. I just realized that there are many aspects of the hobby. There are aspects that people of all levels can enjoy if they can find them. For me its low end Packers cards. You guys can buy and sell your you $500 (or even $100 or $50 cards) all day long. I just know that I will never be part of your group partly out of necessity because I can't afford it, but mostly out of free choice because even if I had the money I don't know if I could ever spend $50.00 on a card. I don't know if I could ever spend $500.00 on a Packers card as long as there were hundreds of $5.00 cards out there that I didn't have.
They key as bamlinden says is to find something, or something else perhaps, and don't be afraid to change. I just urge you to be careful and not change simply for the sake of change. Whatever you change to you should have a passion for or it will most likely fail.
Sorry for the long winded post but if you are still with me thanks for reading.Steve Schindler
Collect what you want to collect. Collect players and cards that you like. Collect what you can afford. Collect for you, not to try to impress someone else. If you do this you will much more likely to enjoy the hobby and stay with it.
10-23-2012, 12:27 PM #60
Great post, Steve, and don't worry I don't take any of it in a negative light. Collecting hadn't been as fun for me the past couple months and I went through all my options as to what could be done to make it fun again, from full-on quitting and selling it off and getting into other collecting avenues, to settling for only a few high-end items (quality trumping quantity), to just sloughing through and hoping that eventually it would become fun again. I am still adding new Price cards of course but they're targeted and ones that stand out to me in some way. No longer am I grabbing whatever latest GU card is out; there's got to be something different/unique about a particular memorabilia card or piece, be it a special jersey/patch piece or even something like a unique mask portrayed on the card (Price has worn about 15 masks in his career and some only for a couple games) that makes it a cool photo.
And the diversification in the Habs PC is benefiting tremendously. I've snagged some great Pacioretty and Leblanc cards. I'm hoping that I can get in touch with some people that have a couple of my Gorges needs. Changing focus has opened up new avenues and injected some new blood into the hobby for me. It's fun again. I just made a great trade this morning that's going to add a real beauty to the Price collection at the expense of 6 Price cards that 3 months ago I wouldn't have let go of simply because they were in the collection.