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    Quote Originally Posted by pghin08 View Post
    The first rule that any business owner should have is to do right by his employees. If you have happy employees who want to come to work each day and want to do right by their boss, you'll probably have a successful business. You brought up Chick-Fil-A and how patronized they were after their gay marriage comments. People can disagree with Chick-Fil-A's religious beliefs, but that's a company that does things the right way. They offer decent benefits, and even re-imburse college tuition for some employees. Not to mention (I'm pretty sure they all do this), they let the employees eat for free. I've never met someone that worked at Chick-Fil-A and didn't say nice things about the company itself.

    I would've thought someone like John Schnatter would understand stuff like this. He built Papa Johns from NOTHING. I think he sold his car to buy his first pizza place. You would think someone like that would understand the plight of the common man.
    Why are we concluding that Papa John's is not a great business organization or insinuating that they don't care about their employees just because they don't provide them with health insurance? It is common knowledge that CFA is a top-notch organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTaxMan View Post
    Why are we concluding that Papa John's is not a great business organization or insinuating that they don't care about their employees just because they don't provide them with health insurance? It is common knowledge that CFA is a top-notch organization.
    Obviously they are not as good as they can be if they are reducing employees hours and pay to avoid paying them health insurance. I'm sure that providing health insurance will increase costs in the short term but it is a cost of doing business. Deal with it.
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    since when should jobs like this provide health insurance or other benefits, oh since obama said so.
    these type of jobs are for teens, college students,people with no other choice, or seniors, and thus should not be expected to provide the same benefits as a career would have.

    come on, the only people that would make this their lifelong career should realize it is a pizza chain, if you are not at the corporate level or an owner, you will make minimum wage or a little above, they are not meant to support a family or provide retirement or healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrveggieman View Post
    Obviously they are not as good as they can be if they are reducing employees hours and pay to avoid paying them health insurance. I'm sure that providing health insurance will increase costs in the short term but it is a cost of doing business. Deal with it.
    It should not be a cost of doing business. They are living with it by not providing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrewsbury View Post
    since when should jobs like this provide health insurance or other benefits, oh since obama said so.
    these type of jobs are for teens, college students,people with no other choice, or seniors, and thus should not be expected to provide the same benefits as a career would have.

    come on, the only people that would make this their lifelong career should realize it is a pizza chain, if you are not at the corporate level or an owner, you will make minimum wage or a little above, they are not meant to support a family or provide retirement or healthcare.

    So since one cannot find no other job besides making pizza for whatever reason they are not good enough to get health insurance for themself or their fam??? Wow....
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    nice twist, but i expected it.

    show me where i said anything about good or bad, i know it's hard to understand that people are responsible for their own choices and life is hard, but it is better to teach them to fish then hand them a mcfilet for a day.

    you know what they say about assuming
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlzinck View Post
    Please if you are going to quote something make sure it's not mindless drivel.

    2 million pizza's, mostly given by franchises who are small business owners will have no more than 10-12 million in total cost. It's advertising.
    Let's see. Is 10-12 million more that 5-8 million? It is!

    So if Johnny boy can afford to give away that much pizza, the insurance isn't going to ruin him. This is just another case of "mad Obama won"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wickabee View Post
    Let's see. Is 10-12 million more that 5-8 million? It is!

    So if Johnny boy can afford to give away that much pizza, the insurance isn't going to ruin him. This is just another case of "mad Obama won"
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    again, you show you know little about advertising or a business' budget, this is not fre money he has laying around he decided to spend on advertising, advertising is the key to survival and growth.

    maybe he should use all that money to give his employees the best benefits available, and when the stores start to close because of loss of revenue do to no advertising, they can just get obamacare.

    has nothing to do with being mad or obama winning, sometimes i wonder what planet you are from
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrewsbury View Post
    again, you show you know little about advertising or a business' budget, this is not fre money he has laying around he decided to spend on advertising, advertising is the key to survival and growth.

    maybe he should use all that money to give his employees the best benefits available, and when the stores start to close because of loss of revenue do to no advertising, they can just get obamacare.

    has nothing to do with being mad or obama winning, sometimes i wonder what planet you are from
    I'm from a planet where, if you can't afford to run your business, you either close shop or cut areas. Advertising doesn't require millions of products be given away and money can he moved from departments to others. Do you think they are legally required to give away the one product they sell? If someone came to you and said "I just gave away 2 million of my product and had to pay for employee insurance. It's killing me!" Would you first thought not be "Maybe sell you product instead of giving it away"?

    If not, what planet are you on?

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