12-05-2012, 10:18 AM #121
Now that i have bash the GOP and teapublicans ...
Ben Stein is the only person i have to date you said it right. Raise taxes and cut spending...
The true moderate in me says this is the only way we can address the real issues. The grand Deal does nothing to address long term debt which is 16T...The deal looks to only cut deficit by 2T over 10 years...we will still run a deficit and add to the debt...
12-05-2012, 10:18 AM #122
12-05-2012, 10:31 AM #123
Let me ask you this, and please give a serious, non-sarcastic answer. Why should we raise the rates? Your answer can't be because it will raise more revenue (it doesn't really) or to make the tax system fairer (remember, the people you are raising rates on make 20% of the income and pay 38% of income taxes).
12-05-2012, 10:32 AM #124
who did you bash?
so your answer is to help out by only increasing revenue by a near 0%?
this is why i keep saying dems do not understand how to budget.
we need to cut atleast 30%
cut 5% by lowering government pay, pensions and benefits, cut 10% from military, cut 10% from welfare, cut 1% from SS, and cut 1% from MC and cut 3% from UE
and raise taxes on 250K and over by 5%
12-05-2012, 11:14 AM #125
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12-05-2012, 11:46 AM #126
12-05-2012, 11:53 AM #127
second it is the correct measure to take to ...if even ...make things appear to be fair...
The Amount has been and never was the issue...It was the GOP following what the election told us...as well Make the GOP bend on their own supporters and at least attempt fairness...
I use the Eisenhower era to prove my points...and you can even look back to the Clinton years....
12-05-2012, 11:58 AM #128
12-05-2012, 11:58 AM #129
AUT you're right raising the tax rates alone will do nothing. In fact so will cutting entitlements or the military. If only one gets done, it will do very little changes need to be made across the board including tax increasesAND entitlement reform AND military cuts. For either aide or any person to call for any one thing is wrong and doesn't help.
Can you agree with that or are you still fighting to have your cake and eat it too?
12-05-2012, 12:03 PM #130
i know, it's to create social justice, which is ignorant
wickabee, i stated earlier both sides are bad off, but atleast the republicans have cuts, obama just has a tax hike.
cutting spending by 30% will help greatly!!!
and boss, no cuts to current seniors, that is one thing i am against