12-30-2012, 10:35 PM #21
My last post will leave one more question...
Why make MINT mockups of some cards (ie Richard), but show a VEZINA rookie that is pretty beat up??? If you are making mockups to just show the cards you are able to grab, why not show a MINT Vezina to go along with it?
For THIS is one of the reasons that led me to believe these were REAL cards an not mockups, because I understand if all cards were 100% mint then likely not actual cards... But why the beat up vezina? My guess is to make the card more believable that it's actually in the product... But that's just speculation.
Brian, I am 100% and ITG supporter and have never said a bad thing about your products, but I feel ITG deserved to be called out in this case.
DaveCollecting: Rookie Year Ovechkin
1951 Parkhurst PSA/SGC 7 NM Set (15/105 14% complete )
12-31-2012, 10:29 AM #22
The comment above from Marko demonstrates the impact that a comment, no matter how ill-informed or outright intended to deceive, can have on a person. One should always consider the source and ask themselves what the person's intentions are when they go out of their way to appear in every thread about a company's product to attempt to skew the discussion in a negative manner and have commentary shut down.
12-31-2012, 10:37 AM #23
I have sent a PM to Marko as he is a customer/collector impacted by Jonpop's comments.
We have yet to hear back from Jonpop about his personally viewing of cards at the Expo.
Did he actually see them or was this an attempt to cause more controversy but posting an outright lie.
I am waiting for confirmation that Jonpop was at the Fall Expo and saw the cards he posted that were on display and then substituted out in the packaging.
I know that I am held accountable for statements made, I am not putting Jonpop up to a higher standard than that.
12-31-2012, 05:36 PM #24
If you like the product buy it, if you don't do not. Every product or company will not be for everyone. Just be fair in your praise or bias if your going to share your views. Nothing like have some facts when giving a informative response.
12-31-2012, 06:21 PM #25
Everyone should take jonpop's comments with a serious grain of salt. The guy has a serious hate on for ITG. You'd swear he's an ex disgruntled employee or just simply works for UD.Markus Naslund Collector
12-31-2012, 06:54 PM #26
Why people even bother replying to him at this point is beyond me.
General rule of thumb, if theres a new ITG thread posted no matter what the thread is about you can expect a jonpon hate comment sooner or later.
Its a shame too, We have a major card company willing to take the time to communicate with us and yet we always get somebody who has to voice their displeasure and cause nothing but misguided trouble.
01-01-2013, 04:33 AM #27
After reading all the comments I thought I'd throw my 2 bit in. To be clear I am an investor with a high standard of ethics and a working knowledge of marketing. Having a mint Vezina for your mockup up was definitely a mistake. That card was a huge draw for collectors that are paying a lot of money to open cases/boxes, everyone wants the "big hit." Having the card at expo on display is great for promotion, yet your looking at a small fraction of the purchasing population physically seeing the card. I saw a picture of the mock-up at a LCS and "assumed" that would be the card. It was an honest misunderstanding. Unfortunately in my business, along with most that costs you money since it could leave a negative image.
Drawing comparisons to pictures of big macs or problems with other card companies doesn't solve the issue, it's just a defense mechanism towards ITG. The issue lies between Dr Price and his customers overall satisfaction with his current product. That is what will determine the ongoing success of his business. "Here Ye on a Poll!"
My collection has a small portion of ITG products which I will give a 10/10 for innovation. I am a rookie collector thus a rock has been placed in an unwanted place!
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01-01-2013, 04:52 AM #28
Why does Brian Price misinterpret every critique of ITG as a personal attack on him? When someone bashes UD or Panini, nobody says anything. However, when someone fairly critisizes an ITG product as a consumer, Cry-Baby-Price comes on the boards and cries fowl over the people who critique his product. What I find even more disturbing are the puppets and supposedly "impartial" mods who block consumer comments and muzzle members who Brian Price does not see eye-to-eye with. It's happened to me in the past. I voiced a customer service concern with ITG and Brian Price had my thread shut down.
01-01-2013, 04:58 AM #29
01-01-2013, 10:49 AM #30
I only collect rc's of the top players, from each year.