01-11-2013, 02:55 PM #31
Okay, first of all my telling you to lighten up some in no way means I enjoy seeing kids dead in the street. That was completely unnecessary.
As for the rest, and this is for the sake of debate so don't get angry, did Clinton commit adultery last year? Probably isn't a good enough answer. If you don't have proof he did that this year, then his infidelity has nothing to do with his being named father of the year. Father of all time, yes. This, no.
Also, we get it. Youve worked with kids on bad situations and it doesn't always work out. Believe me when I say I totally respect what you do. When you repeatedly tell everyone about it, it looks like you're either looking for praise or trying to shock. While we have no idea what you've seen, the fact that you keep saying it doesn't in itself make your experiences more valid. And repeating it takes away any shock value. We understand where you're coming from, but Clinton's infidelity and his being named father of the year have nothing to do with those kids. I imagine a great deal of the kids you deal with have no father. At least Bill is still there. Did he cheat? You'd be foolish to think otherwise, but in my mind that's between him and his wife and family. That goes for any politician.
01-11-2013, 02:59 PM #32
01-11-2013, 03:47 PM #33
veggie, forgiveness and respect are two different things. I have no respect for Clinton.
01-11-2013, 04:03 PM #34
Father of the year and husband of the year are two different things. Presidents have been getting action on the side for years, for some of the sheep it is disturbing, for others that keep their eye on the prize (actually being a good President) they don't see how it affects governing.
I happen to be in the camp that says, Did a hummer cause Clinton to be a bad President? The answer is no. Perhaps if Dubya would have gone back to his old behaviour as a free-loading drunk that passes out in public, he might have been a better President. As it stands now, Clinton is the genius and Dubya, the dopey bastrad.Collecting many HOF Cards, Old OPC, Old Parkhurst, Old Topps.
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01-11-2013, 04:19 PM #35
Wickabee, you are so hard to argue with, when you don't post a lengthy arguement agaist you it's because you can't argue the point, if you do post a lengthy arguement you're mad and need to lighten up lol.
01-11-2013, 04:36 PM #36
when you are married part of being a father is being a husband. what example you are setting to your children often comes from how you treat your spouse.
and you realize we are not talking about him only cheating one time with one female?
a president should be an example for kids, Clinton was not. A president should not take advantage of a young girl, should not cheat on their spouse, should not lie, and when they get caught they should have some backbone.
Christianity has nothing to do with it.
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01-11-2013, 05:37 PM #40
So, if this is how we feel about Clinton and for this reason, why do I always hear that JFK was one of the best President's ever and he died way too soon because he really could have done some great things with more time?
Where's the outrage at him? A Father of the Year selection shouldn't play into it. JFK was obviously a horrible President who was no good for the country and should probably never been President in the first place.
Just like Clinton.