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    I've seen multiples of several even have 2 11-12 Jimmy Howard Blacks and been outbid on a 3rd but have yet to see a single 11-12 Black Bobrovsky.

    How somebody managed to get 10 of a single player while other players haven't even had one pop-up is insane!

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    Guys, Like others have said, the Victory Blacks which came with Upper deck Series 2 have much higher print runs than the blacks that come in victory boxes.

    See below info from Dave and Adams:

    2009/10 Upper Deck Series 2 Hockey Hobby Box: 90 card update set

    Victory Update Cards
    - Regular Cards - inserted 1:2
    - Rookie Cards - inserted 1:2
    - Regular Cards, Gold // - inserted 1:24
    - Rookie Cards, Gold // - inserted 1:24
    - Regular Cards, Black // - inserted 1:288
    - Rookie Cards, Black // - inserted 1:288

    2009/10 Upper Deck Victory Hockey 11-Pack Box: 250 card set

    PRODUCT BREAKDOWN:
    - First Rookie Cards
    - Victory Rookies - inserted 1:2
    - Superstar Inserts (combined t - deliver 1 in 2 on average!)
    - Stars of the Game - inserted 1:4
    - Game Breakers - inserted 1:4
    - Parallels
    - Regular Cards, Gold // - inserted 1:36
    - Rookie Cards, Gold // - inserted 1:144
    - Regular Cards, Black // - inserted 1:720
    - Rookie Cards, Black // - inserted 1:1440
    - Regular Cards
    - 200 Regular Cards

    Add to that the fact that Series one is broke by collectors much more than victory and probably has much higher print runs.

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    To give further perspective, the odds of hitting a specific Victory black in series 2 is 1:25920 packs while in Victory it is 1:360000

    I would suggest the series 2 blacks are about 20:1 on the Base victory blacks.

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    I have 11 Ryan Johansen Victory Black rc's now, and I put that many together just to win a bet with a friend who said there are no more than 10 of each card.

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