Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 59

Thread: Ephesians 5:22-24

  
  1. #11




    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    14,404
    SCF Rewards
    3,363
    Country
    Army
    Philadelphia Eagles
    My traders on Flickr

    veggie - already seen the verse, my point still stands.

    notes2us - it's not submitting because they do not use the word SUBMIT. The question is WHY do they not use the same terminology?

    Jay explained the obvious. They don't use it because the verse was written in a sexist era by a sexist individual. You guys can "interpret" it however you want, just like everything else in the Bible. A bunch of double-speak that can be interpreted and re-interpreted with the changing societal norms.

    I have no idea why the same terminology was not used. However, you are incorrect in saying that verse doesn't have the same meaning as submitting.

    So, using your logic.....words like "obey", "concede", "bow", "relent", "resign", and "surrender" have no relation to the term "submit". It's "submit" and only "submit". There are no others word out there.
    Sorry, I only use PayPal goods and I do not ship internationally.

    Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.
    (Philippians 4:6)

  2. #12





    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    17,461
    Blog Entries
    2
    Transferred Feedback
    Beckett (66)
    Country

    I have no idea why the same terminology was not used. However, you are incorrect in saying that verse doesn't have the same meaning as submitting.

    So, using your logic.....words like "obey", "concede", "bow", "relent", "resign", and "surrender" have no relation to the term "submit". It's "submit" and only "submit". There are no others word out there.

    He once tried to tell me every cause has only one effect and vice versa.

  3. #13




    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Age
    57
    Posts
    7,903
    SCF Rewards
    7,333
    Transferred Feedback
    Beckett (205)
    Country
    See habsheaven's Items on eBay

    I have no idea why the same terminology was not used. However, you are incorrect in saying that verse doesn't have the same meaning as submitting.

    So, using your logic.....words like "obey", "concede", "bow", "relent", "resign", and "surrender" have no relation to the term "submit". It's "submit" and only "submit". There are no others word out there.

    No, using my logic I see the obvious. They didn't use any of those words either. They purposely used terminology that people could "interpret" however they liked. If husbands and wives were supposed to "submit" to each other they would have stated such. They would not use a "word" for one sex and a "phrase" for the other. Unless of course, such wording would prove unpalatable to the followers that count (men).

  4. #14




    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Age
    57
    Posts
    7,903
    SCF Rewards
    7,333
    Transferred Feedback
    Beckett (205)
    Country
    See habsheaven's Items on eBay

    He once tried to tell me every cause has only one effect and vice versa.

    Not sure what this has to do with this thread, or even what it refers to in general. No doubt though, it was probably your "interpretation" of something I said, rather than what I actually said.

  5. #15




    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    15,119
    SCF Rewards
    160
    Country
    See bbra9027's Items on eBay

    If I could chime in back in biblical days even now to a lesser extend men and women have defined roles. Back then most women were discouraged from working so a man generally took care of paying the bills and the wife took care of the domestic duties. In todays times women are free to work most jobs and can contribute financially to the household. That brings up my originally point of why SOME women want their man to take care of them financially and pay all the bills but will not listen to anything he says no feel that the money she brings in should be used for household expenses. Even if you take the religious aspect out of it a lot of females feel that way.
    Drug and smoke free trading.

    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content

  6. #16





    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    17,461
    Blog Entries
    2
    Transferred Feedback
    Beckett (66)
    Country

    Not sure what this has to do with this thread, or even what it refers to in general. No doubt though, it was probably your "interpretation" of something I said, rather than what I actually said.

    It has to do with your Disney taught ideas on love and hate, but I digress.
    How it pertains to this topic is that you only interpret things one way and trying to work against that is impossible most times.

  7. #17




    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Age
    55
    Posts
    9,435
    SCF Rewards
    376
    Country
    See bodyelectricmethod's Items on eBay

    we also should remember that it was not written in English so it has been translated, which often is where the problem comes from. Christian monks were known for their ability to change things when they translated and they did most of the translating and copying back in the day.

  8. #18




    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    4,559
    SCF Rewards
    400
    Country

    This verse is one taken out of context on a consistent basis....

    Sorry, but it's NOT...

    It is what it says.

    Women are to be submissive to the man, and they are not as equal as them.

    There is no other way to read it.

  9. #19





    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    11,225
    SCF Rewards
    1,365
    Country
    New York Yankees Los Angeles Lakers New York Giants
    See ajcorleone's Items on eBay

    And so it was written.


    Sorry, but it's NOT...

    It is what it says.

    Women are to be submissive to the man, and they are not as equal as them.

    There is no other way to read it.


  10. #20





    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    17,461
    Blog Entries
    2
    Transferred Feedback
    Beckett (66)
    Country

    I'd say something about being on the fence here, but I dont think I'm allowed to post in this thread yet, lest I support someone (even though I already stated I don't agree).

Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
SCF Sponsors


About SCF

    Sports Card Forum provides sports and non-sports card collectors a safe place to discuss, buy, sell and trade.

    SCF maintains tools that will allow collectors to manage their collections online, information about what is happening with the hobby, as well as providing robust data to send out for Autographs through the mail.

Follow SCF on