"Panini" Experts needed where do you find info like stated odds print run sp ssp

[scottyt100]

Looking for info on this autograph.



Beckett has the Certified Signatures listed as so.
2012-13 Certified Signatures #12 Tyler Seguin AU - n/a

This is what is printed on the card on the card.
2012-13 Certified Signatures CS-TS Tyler Seguin.

So I can't find an exact BV
And the real crazy thing is that I have not seen one on ebay.
Can't even find a completed listing or even anybody listing one as of yet I have been looking for 2 months now.
Is this card that rare?
Surely there has to be another.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Scott

[vegaspuck]

We don't reveal print runs for non-numbered cards, but I can reveal it has a much shorter print run than most of the Certified Signatures. Definitely a nice pull. Congrats.

[scottyt100]

Explains alot!
I actually acquired from a trade. I knew it was getting the better end.
(had no idea) the product was brand new!
May I say that I saw your Richards collection. (WOW).
Thank you so much for your time and the info
Scott

[jsokol1626]

We don't reveal print runs for non-numbered cards, but I can reveal it has a much shorter print run than most of the Certified Signatures. Definitely a nice pull. Congrats.

Chris

What is the logic behind non disclosure of SP's? Seems it's a good marketing tool to let customers know that certain autos, besides those numbered, are scarce.

[RGM81]

They will disclose SP, SSP, XSP in some product lines (think Private Signings) - but actual numbers don't get put out there. Keeps people chasing.

[jsokol1626]

They will disclose SP, SSP, XSP in some product lines (think Private Signings) - but actual numbers don't get put out there. Keeps people chasing.

Ah, ok, that makes sense. I prefer knowing which cards are SP's because in some cases a player you least expect has an SP auto or GU.

[RGM81]

Totally agree with that sentiment. While they're not obligated to publicize those kinds of things, it would be beneficial to a lot of people if they did more to raise some awareness about super chase cards. As an example, the SP in this year's UD Game Jersey set is Alex Pietrangelo. Guy sold his copy of it for $3 because he didn't know. Guy that bought it flipped it for $200+

[MatsSundin13Rocks]

Don't get me started about not announcing print runs of cards! I hate this practice in the hobby by card manufacturers!

[neilnijjar]

I have no issues with just leaving it with a SP/SSP/XSP designation, however I would love it if those designations had some type of substance

for example
SP <1000 copies
SSP <100 copies
XSP <10 copies


yes I know 1000 copies isnt rare in the hobby any more but the numbers are just for an example

I dont need an exact /25 or anything like that just a general idea - on the flip side I have picked up a few PC cards with cheap prices because the seller was not aware of the scarcity of the card(s)

[vegaspuck]

We do post SP and SSP lists on our Knight's Lance blog for many products. If it hasn't been posted for Certified yet, I'll be sure to get them to post it when they return from New Orleans.