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    So come up with a solution that makes us all happy instead of ramming institutionalized double standard down everyone's throat.

    It's easy to point out problems. It takes some actual thought to come up with solutions. Until a solution is thought of, this is what we have. As long as everyone is pointing out what's wrong, we're merely treading water. Even trying to think of a solution would be a move forward.

    Do you want to stay where you are, or swim ahead.


    That would have been a good way for the republicans to look at Obamacare, however not a justification for mudering the unborn.
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    That would have been a good way for the republicans to look at Obamacare, however not a justification for mudering the unborn.

    Another problem seeker. Come up with a solution for a change, guys.

    This is just lazy whining. If you're not proactive, you're inactive. If you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards.

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    All I'm saying is, as long as men have the option of not dealing with their consequences, women should to.
    You may see that as advocating for abortion, but you may be looking at it backwards (despite my pointing you in the right direction).

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    I'm trying to figure out why I have to have a way to solve problems for every one of my opinions. Just because I personally do not have a solution to the problem (that to me isn't even really a problem as two wrongs don't make a right) means that I should let millions of babies die (if you believe it is a life as I do) a year until we find a solution? Sorry, but your point is extremely irrelevant to me.

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    Another problem seeker. Come up with a solution for a change, guys.

    This is just lazy whining. If you're not proactive, you're inactive. If you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards.

    If your not first, your last.....

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    I'm trying to figure out why I have to have a way to solve problems for every one of my opinions. Just because I personally do not have a solution to the problem (that to me isn't even really a problem as two wrongs don't make a right) means that I should let millions of babies die (if you believe it is a life as I do) a year until we find a solution? Sorry, but your point is extremely irrelevant to me.

    It's very easy to repeatedly say "That's wrong. That's wrong" but broken records rarely get anything done. What you're telling me is you want to take the choice away from women but continue to allow men to make the decision to deal with their consequences or not. You don't think that appears "anti-woman" because it is.
    Until someone steps up, puts some real thought into how to make things equal, we're stuck here. You want abortion abolished, come up with a solution for the double standard.

    Since no one seems to get this, I'll put it as plainly as possible:
    I'm not advocating for abortion. I'm advocating for equality. If you can find a way to FORCE men to live with their consequences like you seem to think women should, then by all means, abolish it in non rape/incest cases. As long as a man can walk away from his responsibilities I see no reason why a woman has to live with hers.

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    My Wife is a Medical Provider at Planned Parenthood. She said that if Abortion was completely illegal, that the cost to each State in Welfare monies, and Law Enforcement would double over a 15 year period, until it again tripled, or quadrupled over the next 15 years.

    And just so the folks on the extreme right here don't want to bother to listen, My Wife is a Clinical Nurse Midwife, A Clinical Nurse Practitioner, and a specialist in Women's Health. She helps many lower income troubled, single mothers, and teens with making proper decisions about their Health Care, she is not an abortion advocate in the least.

    The extreme right in American have no solutions to those with unfortunate circumstances, and they don't donate ONE CENT to single mothers and teens in both financial stress and medical stress, they only scream "Crime against god"

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    Well, people in bad circumstances are bad donors, so why would the extreme right care?

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    I'm going to speak and once again this will fall on deaf ears but I am going to speak my mind just the same. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Why not invest more in ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies. The first thing the right wingers need to do if they are truley serious about reducing the demand for abortion is end the garbage being taught as absitnence only. It is a complete waste of time and money and actually creates more unwanted pregnancies. Invest more in comprehinsive sex ed and contraception. Have more clinics with free condom distribution. I need this is blasphemy for conservatives but yes give out free condoms in high schools. Conservatives have their minds warped to believe that if kids don't have condoms they will not have sex. Also how about looking into some type of police force or even private bounty hunter system to track down deadbeat parents. Yes I believe that abortion is murder but unlike most of the conservatives I am actually coming up with solutions.

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    I'm going to speak and once again this will fall on deaf ears but I am going to speak my mind just the same. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Why not invest more in ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies. The first thing the right wingers need to do if they are truley serious about reducing the demand for abortion is end the garbage being taught as absitnence only. It is a complete waste of time and money and actually creates more unwanted pregnancies. Invest more in comprehinsive sex ed and contraception. Have more clinics with free condom distribution. I need this is blasphemy for conservatives but yes give out free condoms in high schools. Conservatives have their minds warped to believe that if kids don't have condoms they will not have sex. Also how about looking into some type of police force or even private bounty hunter system to track down deadbeat parents. Yes I believe that abortion is murder but unlike most of the conservatives I am actually coming up with solutions.

    My Wife daily lectures women in how to help themselves, how to make better decisions about their own personal welfare, and about their own health. She also gives out about $20K per year in both Birth Control Pills, and in inserting IUD's in women that just cannot stop having children, and that cannot afford Birth Control, or the procedure for an IUD. You must remember this, some women are often coming from a real base of both financial and social stress.

    The thing to keep in mind is, in some socio-economic circles, especially the lower strata, everything else may change, and often times for the good of both the patient, and society, however these women that require help are in many cases almost illiterate. They have no idea how to control their own lives, and with some help and instruction, they may improve their lot.

    One thing is constant, they are not going to stop having sex, and that is where guidance is required, as well as preventing more unwanted pregnancies. A child born into an unwanted situation is eventually doomed to be a huge social problem down the road, not to mention, possibly a horrible life.
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