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Thread: What the Babies Would Say
02-05-2013, 12:38 PM #41
I do think ultimately the woman is the major deciding party, but a man should have some say. I'm not sure how much they have legally and it would mostly have to do with the relationship he has with the woman and if the woman is open to his input or not.
02-05-2013, 12:47 PM #42
Hey, I'm all for input from both parties. The fact of the matter, though, is that two have sex and if a pregnancy occurs, the man has the option to leave and never look back. The woman does not, she's stuck pregnant. So essentially, you're all for leaving the man with the ability to skirt his consequences but you don't want women to have that ability.
I'm not sure how anyone who knows how procreation works wouldn't be able to follow this.
02-05-2013, 12:48 PM #43
Like you said there are so many gray areas and reasons why one would or needs to have an abortion. I think that when you start to limit reasons it becomes impossible to monitor. Lots of people say they would be for abortion in instances of a mothers life being at stake or if they were raped. The major flaw to that is who decides if a woman's pregnancy was the product of a rape? If you think about it that would be nearly impossible to monitor. Does a doctor perform the abortion as long as the woman says that her pregnancy was from a rape? Does the woman have to charge a man for rape to be able to have an abortion if she claims to be pregnant from that alleged rape? The list of questions would go on and on. It's something that you just wouldn't be able to come up with a clear solution and impossible to enforce.
02-05-2013, 12:50 PM #44
02-05-2013, 12:53 PM #45
02-05-2013, 12:55 PM #46
You're still subjecting women to the consequence you speak of while allowing men to go scott free.
02-05-2013, 12:56 PM #47
02-05-2013, 12:56 PM #48
02-05-2013, 12:58 PM #49
Very true... BUT... statistically who has the majority of abortions? Young 20's - not mature, have no idea... think, oh crap, I can't do the things I want to do anymore.
Also- there are ALWAYS going to be exceptions about everything you talk about. Rape, What if they baby will come out deformed, etc, etc. BUT... do some research... the MAJORITY of abortions are not from rape, they are not from all the little exceptions that come from the "possibilities," they are from people just not wanting a child.
I don't know what it is now, but I know about 10 years ago... it was 2% of abortions were because of Rape.
Yes, that sucks for those lower majority of people that have LEGITIMATE concerns and reasons - but to make a blanket statement to say EVERYONE should have the right based of the lower percentile is harsh. Again, it sucks for those who have cases, but if we develop rules and regulations to accommodate everyone- there will always be cases to detract from every rule- which will just be a complete chaos of society of everyone can have the right to do everythingSorry... "Lower than ebay" makes no sense when 1 card went for $4 and the rest go for $30+
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02-05-2013, 01:03 PM #50