Arkansas is closer to making concealed guns in churches legal.

**ensbergcollector** · 02-05-2013, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by mrveggieman

Ray Lewis did not kill anyone on that faithful night. Even Fulton County prosecutor Paul Howard (Dwight Howard's uncle btw) agreed that he didn't and gave him a deal to testify against the actual killers. Yes he made some poor choices that night with the crowd that he kept but no one will say that he actually killed anyone. Also the jury aquited both of they suspects because they felt the guys who were killed provoked the entire incident and the fight and subsequent deaths were in self defense.

just because someone was not charged with a crime does not mean they didn't do it. Now, I do not claim knowledge that Lewis did kill someone but to say that since he wasn't charged that he is therefore innocent is extremely false.

as to the actual topic, if you are against concealed carry then I understand. If you have no problem with concealed carry permits, then I am unsure why it would be any different to carry in church.

**Wickabee** · 02-05-2013, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by ensbergcollector

just because someone was not charged with a crime does not mean they didn't do it. Now, I do not claim knowledge that Lewis did kill someone but to say that since he wasn't charged that he is therefore innocent is extremely false.

Actually, it is correct officially. On the record for the rest of time, he will be considered innocent. So it's not extremely false, it's officially correct.

**MadMan1978** · 02-05-2013, 10:58 AM

It appears to me, that the atheists here, have a greater respect for your church then those defending them in this thread. I would never, in my opinion, be that disrespectful to any church and carry a concealed weapon with the doors of the building.

**ensbergcollector** · 02-05-2013, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Wickabee

Actually, it is correct officially. On the record for the rest of time, he will be considered innocent. So it's not extremely false, it's officially correct.

surely you know what I meant? He is correctly labeled as innocent for the rest of his life. Being legally innocent does not mean innocent. I have to assume that you knew what I meant and just felt like being contrary.

**Wickabee** · 02-05-2013, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by ensbergcollector

surely you know what I meant? He is correctly labeled as innocent for the rest of his life. Being legally innocent does not mean innocent. I have to assume that you knew what I meant and just felt like being contrary.

Actually, I took issue with you calling it "extremely false" when it's technically and officially true. I don't like you labelling things as they aren't. I know what you meant, I took issue with your false presentation. You'd do the same with me, so don't even start.
Or you can go on thinking anyone who disagrees with something you say (not mean) is being contrary, but that's pretty arrogant thinking.

Basically, don't label things as something they aren't. It's deceptive.

**centrehice** · 02-05-2013, 01:40 PM

What's funny about the Ray Lewis situation, is that everybody in Massachusetts, and everyone in San Francisco think he's a killer.

Sour Grapes I'm afraid.

**ajcorleone** · 02-05-2013, 01:45 PM

I am a Giants fan born and bred in NY.I think he is a killer

Originally Posted by centrehice

What's funny about the Ray Lewis situation, is that everybody in Massachusetts, and everyone in San Francisco think he's a killer.

Sour Grapes I'm afraid.