02-28-2013, 07:16 PM #31
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02-28-2013, 08:10 PM #35
I think it's Trout, I'm just saying Pujols has a better track record
03-03-2013, 05:08 AM #36
As for your being mad, I'm sorry you feel that way. But let's get one thing out of the way. I have never "followed you" anywhere. If I post in the same thread you do, it is mere coincidence. The only time I can ever remember your posting was in the "Ryan Braun's in trouble again thread". As a Braun fan, did you not expect me to not post in it?
Here's pretty much my first impression of you:
Secondly, this is a thread about the "face of baseball", and I am disputing Kemp's worthiness as a candidate. It's not a personal attack on him in any way, nor is it meant to impugn you as a fan. He seems like a really nice guy, and he's got incredible talent. But the history of baseball is littered with players that have had great talent, and haven't achieved to their potential. And I'm sorry if you think I'm being rude (I'm not), but the fact remains that Kemp has had one great year. Period. To listen to the talk about him, you'd think he's the second coming of Mickey Mantle. He may yet become an all-time great, and nobody would be happier than me to see him attain his potential. I said I hoped he could get back to where he was in 2011, because he was fun to watch, did I not? I like Matt Kemp. But that does not mean I am going to wear rose colored glasses when it comes to a discussion about which one player is most representative of the sport.
Here are Matt Kemp's 162 game averages for his career, not including his 2011 season:
731 games (4.51 seasons)
71% steal rate
He's a nice player statistically, but the face of baseball should be not only one of the most marketable players in the sport, he should also be one of the greats. And I'm sorry to say this, outside of his contract year, Matt Kemp has been a very good player, not great. .288/25/89/.485 SLG is a borderline All Star. Some of it is injuries, absolutely. Some of it is his head (his breakup with his girlfriend being the reasoning I've read from Dodger fans for his sub-par 2010). Maybe there's other reasons (I will leave that to Dodger fans to determine).
If you agree with me about Verlander, that's your right. If you don't think Dodger went nuts voting for him, that's also your right. Logic would dictate that fans of the Giants, Cardinals, Yankees and all the other teams are not voting for Matt Kemp as the face of baseball though. The Los Angeles metropolitan area has nearly 13 million people. It was not my intention to assign blame to Dodger fans for doing something wrong. They showed up in force.
I'm sorry you think I am being disrespectful by stating an opinion. This is a discussion board, and the focus of this conversation is now on a player that I do not feel is worthy of being the one player above all others that baseball is instantly associated with. Matt Kemp is a great player when he is healthy, and gives his best effort.
By the way, in your rush to judge me, you missed my apologizing to you directly in the previously mentioned Braun thread.
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03-03-2013, 06:40 AM #37
03-03-2013, 02:55 PM #38
Looks like Votto won MLB Network's Face of MLB over KempTrade Bucket: Hidden Content
03-04-2013, 10:06 PM #39
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