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Can you prove to me that your mother loves you? (wife, kids etc)
Can you prove to me that when you cry you're truly sad?
Certain things in life are immeasurable. The love I feel for my friends and family, the pain I feel at times of loss are more 'real' than a lot of things in this materialistic world.
03-04-2013, 12:33 PM #28
There are SO many things that we all have "faith" in and "believe" in during out lifetime. This might be a stupid example, but might get you to think...
Have you ever had a DNA test that your dad or mom is really your dad or mom? Most probably haven't but just believe them to be your parents because of what they say and do.
It comes down to Faith... even if you are NOT a Believer. You say there is not proof that God exists and you say that there is proof that things existed before you were born. Well, how do you know? Science? Well you are putting FAITH in what scientists are quoting and researching are true. Have you seen the evidence first hand? Have you met the scientist's first hand? You are trusting them to be giving you evidence that is true and having faith that what they say is right.
Believer's of God are the same way. They have Faith and trust that the bible or other sources are giving them proof that God exists.
That's why on these forums- there is so much hatred and stabbing at people's beliefs and religion, or lack there of. WHY? We all believe that our sources and what we believe is right? That is fine with me, but to go after people and what they believe starts to get real old and the more attacking there is- it seems like the more afraid you are, and the more you have to convince yourself you are right.... why else would you be so set in attacking?
Why is there so much anemosity towards what others believe? Proof or no Proof, I have pointed this out before... our whole lives and most of our decisions we make come down to faith whether we realize it or not?
I have faith that my girlfriend won't cheat on me? Do I have proof? No! Do I question things... maybe! Do I go after her and grill her about why this or why that or give me proof, etc? NO! I have faith... God exists because I have faith. If you don't have that same faith that he exists... that's fine... but just saying proof is ONLY valid if you have faith in it. We all can see things differently, even proof, on what it means.Sorry... "Lower than ebay" makes no sense when 1 card went for $4 and the rest go for $30+
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Religion is man's way of explaining what he can't (as much as science which explains what he can and seeks to move more into that category.
God no more touched those who "receive" help than he did kick those others in the gut. Does that mean he isn't here and doesn't exist? I don't think so.
Everyone says, "If I was God, I wouldn't allow suffering!" but if you were God you'd think differently than you do now by default, if it even is what can be considered thought. I don't know if there's a God or what he is, but I do know one thing.
There is no way in heaven he thinks or acts like man.