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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNati#22 View Post
    looks like the cowboys are going with romo for 6 more years

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    Cowboys to stink for another 6 years....
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  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by meandsharon11 View Post
    it really doesnt matter what gm or owner the browns have they all do the same stupid thing over and over.
    Not sure what is so stupid about signing a back-up QB?
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by selby56 View Post
    Not sure what is so stupid about signing a back-up QB?
    jason campbell? has nothing to do with signing a backup and everything to do with who they signed. unless they plan on drafting another first round qb and making campbell 3rd string just hope weeden doesnt get injured.
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  4. #84
    I thought Jason Campbell was going to retire after the 49ers game, he was mentally and physically destroyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meandsharon11 View Post
    jason campbell? has nothing to do with signing a backup and everything to do with who they signed. unless they plan on drafting another first round qb and making campbell 3rd string just hope weeden doesnt get injured.
    Shouldn't every team be hoping their starting QB doesn't get hurt? There are very few contending teams I can think of that have a back-up QB that could still lead their team to the playoffs. And the Browns aren't even a contending team, so that makes this signing even more irrelevant.
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    that's the point right there. Its a useless signing. They would have been just as well off to draft one in round 5-7 and get the same or better results. Making irrelevant signings doesn't improve any team, and with Campbell being the back up it makes it even worse. The only thing that should be irrelevant in football is free agent rookie signings to fill preseason roster holes. Lets just say the Campbell signing being irrelevant isn't the step in the right direction new management needed to take. Irrelevant signings have kept the browns where they have been. One would hope new owner and front office would do something different but its not looking that way.
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  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by pwaldo View Post
    Cowboys to stink for another 6 years....
    I don't get this. Romo is the one and only player who consistently produces for the Cowboys. Their running game is up and down, their receivers are habitual under-achievers, their defense is chock-full of high draft picks (Spencer 1st round, Claiborne 1st round, Ware 1st round, Sims 1st round, Carter 2nd round, Lee 2nd round, Hatcher 3rd round, Connor 3rd round) yet they finish 19th in total defense and 28th in turnovers...and the guy who consistently throws for 4000 yards and 25-30 TDs while completing 65% of his passes is the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by meandsharon11 View Post
    that's the point right there. Its a useless signing. They would have been just as well off to draft one in round 5-7 and get the same or better results. Making irrelevant signings doesn't improve any team, and with Campbell being the back up it makes it even worse. The only thing that should be irrelevant in football is free agent rookie signings to fill preseason roster holes. Lets just say the Campbell signing being irrelevant isn't the step in the right direction new management needed to take. Irrelevant signings have kept the browns where they have been. One would hope new owner and front office would do something different but its not looking that way.
    In their defense, nobody who wants to win will go to Cleveland. Think about it. If you were a top free agent and could sign anywhere, would you sign in Cleveland and essentially throw away 4 or 5 years of your career? The only free agents who sign there are the ones who know they are overrated and won't get the same money elsewhere (Kruger, Bryant), the aging guys who want to pad their bank accounts with a few final years in the league with no pressure to produce (Campbell) or the low tier free agents that will most likely be out of the NFL if they don't sign with Cleveland (Kellen Davis). For the most part they have to take what they can get.

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  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by meandsharon11 View Post
    that's the point right there. Its a useless signing. They would have been just as well off to draft one in round 5-7 and get the same or better results. Making irrelevant signings doesn't improve any team, and with Campbell being the back up it makes it even worse. The only thing that should be irrelevant in football is free agent rookie signings to fill preseason roster holes. Lets just say the Campbell signing being irrelevant isn't the step in the right direction new management needed to take. Irrelevant signings have kept the browns where they have been. One would hope new owner and front office would do something different but its not looking that way.
    Wait...what is your stance on Weeden? Weren't you saying he needed more time? That is exactly what this signing does for him. If we brought in someone like Matt Flynn or Kevin Kolb, someone that could actually create a legitimate QB competition, then I'd agree that we are doing the same old crap we always do. But this signing suggests that our FO has faith in Weeden and they just wanted to bring in someone to back him up that at the very least is familiar with the offense.

    The signing is irrelevant in the sense that it won't make-or-break our playoff outlooks this season. Campbell was signed because he is familiar with the offense and doesn't pose a serious threat to steal the starting job away from Weeden. He is literally just a stop-gap back-up. Maybe we will draft a guy in the later rounds to let develop into our future back-up, but when your team is installing a new offense, it is a good idea to bring in a guy that is at least familiar with it to help the others catch up. If we stuck with Weeden and just drafted some guy in the 6th round, neither of them know the offense and have no players to guide them.

    What QB did you think the Browns should have gone after? Kolb and Flynn don't fit the system, and they might be a threat to take the starting spot from Weeden. Derek Anderson stayed with Carolina. Drafting some guy in the later rounds doesn't do much good, especially if they don't know the offense. When/if Weeden gets hurt, who do you trust more? A vet that is familiar with the offense, or some 6th rounder that has been watching from the sidelines for a few weeks?

    I just don't understand how you can look at this move and say "this is why the Browns will forever suck; because they signed a vet QB to be their back-up." Irrelevant signings are not why the Browns have been bad for so long. Crappy drafting is to blame for that.
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  10. #90
    Selby I don't disagree with what you are saying about Campbell knowing the system, but if Kolb or Flynn could "steal" the job from Weeden, wouldn't that be a good thing? One, competition breeds success. Having a solid QB to push Weeden just makes Weeden better. If he is so soft that being pressured hinders him, then he isn't a solid choice for QB anyway. If Kolb/Flynn take the job from Weeden or if Weeden holds off the challenge then that is a win-win for the team, they end up with their best option as a starter and a solid QB as their back-up. Second, Kolb and Flynn are both younger than Weeden and have more experience. If one of them takes the job from him then that is a win-win.

    Quite frankly, if the Browns consider a guy that will be 30 before mid-way this season to be the QB they are developing for the future, then they aren't planning for a very long future.

    Everything that you are saying is what you expect a team to do when they have a young franchise-type QB that they are bringing along. Weeden is not young and based on his first season does not appear to be a franchise-type of QB, so the Campbell signing doesn't make much sense because it doesn't create competition nor does it provide them with a solid back-up.
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