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    Dad gives son riffle for 11th birthday

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    the reaction by the police in this case is frightening. how many people instead of calling a lawyer would have just done what they were told even though they had no reason to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensbergcollector View Post
    the reaction by the police in this case is frightening. how many people instead of calling a lawyer would have just done what they were told even though they had no reason to?

    Agreed. Normally I agree with a lot of what's said on the David Pakman show but I despise their anti gun attitude on there and asking why did this guy call a lawyer. So because he wants to exercise his second amendment right he should forfiet his 4th amendment rights. However taking and distributing a pic of his son holding the gun was way over the top and he was begging for trouble. Just like the preacher man who took a pic of himself in the tub with his granddaughter. Some things should remain private withing families and are not for public consumption.
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    Give a 12 year old a rifle? Are you flipping stupid???
    Great point made ...his lawyer is a specialist in 2nd amendment rights?

    This goes to tghe head of the class of bad parenting 101!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMan1978 View Post
    Give a 12 year old a rifle? Are you flipping stupid???
    Great point made ...his lawyer is a specialist in 2nd amendment rights?

    This goes to tghe head of the class of bad parenting 101!
    I can somewhat agree with you. Althought I am totally against the "sport" of hunting I think that it is ok to take your kids out target shooting if they are mature enough and you taught them about the dangers and responsibilities of firearms. That being said giving your child his own riffle may have been over the top and taking a picture of it was the icing on the cake. However he did not break any laws and I have no problem with him speaking to an attorney who specializes in the second amendment. If you do not know your rights or have someone who can explain your rights to you the gov't will walk all over you.
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    We should probably ban all pictures because someone somewhere will be mortified by it.

    I grew up in a hunting town. Rifles aren't the problem and teaching kids properly about guns is probably better than sheltering them completely. You all know what side of this debate I'm on, but to call it bad parenting is stupid and ignorant.
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    Rifles may not be the problem, but the kid's age is. Could he not have started him out with some training wheels first, maybe a pellet gun? Reminds me of the pageant mothers applying makeup/hair/clothes to their 5 year olds. Teaching them about all of it is fine, but is it AGE appropriate? That picture exemplifies the problem with the gun culture in America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by habsheaven View Post
    Rifles may not be the problem, but the kid's age is. Could he not have started him out with some training wheels first, maybe a pellet gun? Reminds me of the pageant mothers applying makeup/hair/clothes to their 5 year olds. Teaching them about all of it is fine, but is it AGE appropriate? That picture exemplifies the problem with the gun culture in America.
    I didn't actually watch the video (prefer to read, frankly) so I was unaware he's never had a pellet gun before this. My bad.

    For the record, when I was eleven, several of my friends had their own rifles. It was always in dad's case and it was only used supervised for target shooting or hunting. Giving the kid a rifle isn't had parenting so long as it comes with education and is kept safely by the parent.

    Sheltering your child from everything you personally don't like is bad parenting. I'm not saying go by you kid a gun, I'm saying don't judge parents on one thing, especially when there is nothing wrong with said act (in this case, gift giving) in and of itself.

    MadMan, to call this guy a bad parent, you must be a great parent, right?
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    My parents actually bought me a semi auto 22 for chirstmas when I was 12 and took pictures of me with it. Nearly every kid where I live gets a 22 around 11-12-13, I don't see what the big deal is, maybe it's because this one looks like an assault rifle.

    It's not like 11 year olds couldn't have had proper trianing, a lot of kids start shooting pellet guns when they are 8 (like me) and it's not like he's going to be shooting this without the close supervision and guidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boba View Post
    My parents actually bought me a semi auto 22 for chirstmas when I was 12 and took pictures of me with it. Nearly every kid where I live gets a 22 around 11-12-13, I don't see what the big deal is, maybe it's because this one looks like an assault rifle.

    It's not like 11 year olds couldn't have had proper trianing, a lot of kids start shooting pellet guns when they are 8 (like me) and it's not like he's going to be shooting this without the close supervision and guidance.
    Exactly. Giving the kid a gun is NOT bad parenting. Letting him play with it unsupervised would be. Letting him keep it in his room would be. Letting him shoot the cat would be. But just giving him the gun as a present is NOT bad parenting.

    If it was a handgun, I might feel differently, but this is quite obviously a hunting/target gun. For all the talking "the left" does about "the right" being paranoid, they're looking pretty paranoid themselves in this thread.
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