03-27-2013, 11:49 AM #111
03-27-2013, 11:50 AM #112
03-27-2013, 11:52 AM #113
Furthermore, eliminating the entire 2nd Amendment doesn't dissolve my right to own a gun. We have many, many rights that are not set forth in the Constitution. All the 2nd Amendment does is give people a solid basis to protect their gun ownership rights. Eliminating it would not immediately result in everyone having to turn over their guns anymore than eliminating the 3rd Amendment would suddenly mean that people would have to start housing military personnel.
03-27-2013, 11:59 AM #114
You're right. If that first part isn't there, it doesn't affect the second part. But it is there and one has to think for a reason. If you had read what I wrote, you'd see that I think taking the part about a militia out is acceptable. Since you didn't read, you think I don't want you to own a gun. That's the problem you're having. You're basing your argument about the constitution on the fallacy that the part about militias is meaningless and you're basing your argument against me on the fallacy that I don't want you to have a gun. You're simply ignoring what's right in front of you. How is that productive in any way?
It's not. You should try basing arguments on fact not fallacy.
I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH NO GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you get it yet, or are you seriously this simple?
03-27-2013, 12:28 PM #115
Former NYC Mayor Ed Koch wants to ban all guns
In 1996 Obama answered a questionnaire where he said that he supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.
Danny Glover supports the abolishment of all privately owned guns.
A Dept. of Justice memo outlines gun bans and mandatory gun confiscation
I could go on with many, many more links but I won't. No Wick, YOU may not want to take my guns, but there are PLENTY of liberals who would not hesitate to have the Fed knock on my door and take them all or imprison me if I refused to give them up.
03-27-2013, 12:30 PM #116
03-27-2013, 01:16 PM #117
1996 Duane. Come on man (In my Keyshawn Johnson voice). Please join the rest of us in the year 2013. President Obama does not and I mean repeat does not want to take away anyone's second amendment rights.
03-27-2013, 07:58 PM #118
"There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution" - John Adams, March 4, 1797 – March 4, 1801
03-27-2013, 08:07 PM #119
cept he wants to ban the only firearm i have. i'm a honorably discharged Marine with no criminal record and no mental illness. I never fired a firearm til bootcamp (except once at boy scout camp, where I fired a .22) and only really feel comfortable firing weapons I was trained on.
When I got out I bought the cilivian version of my rifle, which does not have the 3 round burst and only looks and feels like the same rifle. The assault weapons ban would ban my rifle even though it is nothing like the rifle I had in the Corps, just looks and feels the same.
i would then be disarmed.
Last edited by FioreSA; 03-27-2013 at 08:09 PM.
03-27-2013, 08:33 PM #120