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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by shrewsbury View Post

    why did Europeans come to the America's?
    they used up their resources and battle over land was prominent, why? too many people

    What happened when the the colonies were getting crowded?
    battle over land again?

    heck, how did Canada get formed?

    I think empire-building at the time might have had something to do with it.


    Canada was formed when a tiny drop of glorious maple syrup was drizzled onto a crumpet in 1731. Then Wayne Gretzky was born. That's pretty much it.
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    it would actually be do the lack of timber, so the search for resources drove them here, including gold and land. the people that followed were mostly interested in freedom from a ruler and freedom of religion.

    the gangs and crime that developed was directly do to over population.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by shrewsbury View Post
    10 times more people equals ten times more likely to happen, and we are only 5 times.
    Jay, have you ever taken a statistics course? The fact that the rates are based on a certain number (100,000 in this case) nullifies the population variance. You have a rate 5 times higher based on every 100,000 people so it doesn't matter that your population is 10 times ours. It's irrelevant to the rate.
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    then you should know stats can vary by the data used and how it is manipulated

    the stats used here does not consider population density or resources available, and these two factors lead to a higher crime rate.


    the population density of New York city is nearly 3 times that of toronto, this would explain why I said fewer resources equals more crime.


    here is something from good old Canada for you

    “There has been an increase in concentration of violence taking place among young males under 30 years of age,” says Scot Wortley, an associate professor at the University of Toronto’s Centre of Criminology. “Many of the young male victims of homicide are from our poorest and most socially disadvantaged communities.”
    Wortley said studies show Toronto’s middle-class communities have been shrinking and “our poor communities are not only growing but are becoming increasingly geographically and socially isolated — in other words, more like American ghettoes.”
    In the U.S., these communities have been associated with high rates of crime and violence and, if the trend continues, a similar increase can be expected in Canada, he said.
    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2012..._reported.html

    like I said, too many people, not enough resources
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87sluggo View Post
    I think empire-building at the time might have had something to do with it.


    Canada was formed when a tiny drop of glorious maple syrup was drizzled onto a crumpet in 1731. Then Wayne Gretzky was born. That's pretty much it.
    that's it. I am moving to Canada. You people know more about my country than most of the people here, have snow for more than 3 months a year in some parts, and are freaking funny as all get oot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpucksx View Post
    that's it. I am moving to Canada. You people know more about my country than most of the people here, have snow for more than 3 months a year in some parts, and are freaking funny as all get oot...

    Honestly, I think the grass is always greener somewhere else, until you get there. I've driven down the west coast of the US a few times and no matter where I go the people are friendly, the weather is great and the chocolate bar variety is AMAZING. And after living in BC for 30-odd years, all I wanna do lately is chuck it all and move to Newfoundland...........there are places in Vancouver you wouldn't want to get caught alone at night in, believe me...........
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by shrewsbury View Post
    10 times more people equals ten times more likely to happen, and we are only 5 times.
    "Only" 5 times better at killing ourselves than Canadians?
    How does "only" and "5 times" get in the same sentence...for anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87sluggo View Post
    Honestly, I think the grass is always greener somewhere else, until you get there. I've driven down the west coast of the US a few times and no matter where I go the people are friendly, the weather is great and the chocolate bar variety is AMAZING. And after living in BC for 30-odd years, all I wanna do lately is chuck it all and move to Newfoundland...........there are places in Vancouver you wouldn't want to get caught alone at night in, believe me...........
    oh, I know what you are saying, but after having been in many parts of Ontario (Toronto, Sarnia, Sudbury, and points in between), as well as Regina, Calgary and Medicine Hat, I still feel like the "idiocy rate" is much lower up there. There is still a tie in most areas to some form of civility and respect for people that seems to have really slipped away down here.

    Plus, like I mentioned. You guys have real winters for the most part...I love the cold!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrewsbury View Post
    then you should know stats can vary by the data used and how it is manipulated

    the stats used here does not consider population density or resources available, and these two factors lead to a higher crime rate.


    the population density of New York city is nearly 3 times that of toronto, this would explain why I said fewer resources equals more crime.


    here is something from good old Canada for you



    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2012..._reported.html

    like I said, too many people, not enough resources
    Funny, Canada as a whole has more property crime than the US per capita, but less homicides and violent crime. Toronto is simply catching up. It's always been "little America".
    I guess they agree with Americans that things are worth more then lives. Too bad.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by xpucksx View Post
    that's it. I am moving to Canada. You people know more about my country than most of the people here, have snow for more than 3 months a year in some parts, and are freaking funny as all get oot...
    lol.

    Canada is currently at my #2 destination if I ever decide that this country is beyond saving (which, actually during the past few months, I think it's on the right path).

    Anyways, I would definitely go to UK first.

    Can't beat fish and chips, soccer for 12 months of the year, and that bloody accent!
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