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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncer View Post
    Hopefully the Republicans can get enough votes to stop this from happening…the last thing we need is for more free-loaders to be collecting entitlements with my tax dollars.

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    With American attitudes like this....maybe Pureto Rico should stay independant.
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    I always thought that PR didn't want to become a state. I think I heard something about it being an issue with taxes they'd have to pay if they are a state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAlex View Post
    inb4 GOP heads explode at the possibility of even MORE latino voters.

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    Brace yourself...Puerto Ricans who are registered voters in Florida only slightly lean Democrat (56%).

    And for point of reference...the 2012 Republican Party statement on PR statehood: We support the right of the United States citizens of Puerto Rico to be admitted to the Union as a fully sovereign state after they freely so determine.

    Quote Originally Posted by bouncer View Post
    Hopefully the Republicans can get enough votes to stop this from happening…the last thing we need is for more free-loaders to be collecting entitlements with my tax dollars.

    http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acsbr11-02.pdf
    Hate to break this to ya, but Puerto Ricans already get US Federal assistance. The NAP program is a US funded food program (essentially food stamps) that about half of all Puerto Ricans are on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Cards View Post
    I always thought that PR didn't want to become a state. I think I heard something about it being an issue with taxes they'd have to pay if they are a state.
    In the past that was true. This latest economic recession has hit them hard. They haven't been very secretive that one of the big reasons they are doing it is to get Federal aid, which is believed will come to around $20 billion a year as opposed to the $1.5 billion in Fed aid they get right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duane1969 View Post
    In the past that was true. This latest economic recession has hit them hard. They haven't been very secretive that one of the big reasons they are doing it is to get Federal aid, which is believed will come to around $20 billion a year as opposed to the $1.5 billion in Fed aid they get right now.

    So what exactly is PR considered? A colony? A semi-independent country who gets all of the privleges of being connected with the United States with less drama? I really would like to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrveggieman View Post
    So what exactly is PR considered? A colony? A semi-independent country who gets all of the privleges of being connected with the United States with less drama? I really would like to know.
    I think they are classified as a territory. The residents are citizens of the US, receive protection of the US government and can serve in the military, but are not taxed, can't vote for president and have no representatives in the House or Senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duane1969 View Post
    I think they are classified as a territory. The residents are citizens of the US, receive protection of the US government and can serve in the military, but are not taxed, can't vote for president and have no representatives in the House or Senate.
    Not a bad deal. I would give up voting in exchange for not having to pay taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrveggieman View Post
    Not a bad deal. I would give up voting in exchange for not having to pay taxes.
    My guess would be that they still vote in local elections and pay local taxes (which are probably higher than most states).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrveggieman View Post
    Not a bad deal. I would give up voting in exchange for not having to pay taxes.
    That is why they have voted to remain a non-state in the past.

    Quote Originally Posted by habsheaven View Post
    My guess would be that they still vote in local elections and pay local taxes (which are probably higher than most states).
    You would be correct on local elections. I am not sure about their taxes other than I know they don't pay Federal income tax. Considering like 50% of the country is in poverty and they have a 13% unemployment rate, my guess is that even a local or commonwealth tax system isn't producing much revenue.

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