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04-21-2013, 09:26 PM #1
Russia asked FBI to investigate Boston bomber just 6 MONTHS ago about radical ties
Speculation is growing that one of the Boston bombers met a known Jihadist terrorist in 2011 - as it emerged the FBI failed to follow up on a Russian tip that he was seen with an Islamic militant six times.
On a YouTube account widely believed to belong to Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, there are two videos on a playlist called 'terrorists' created five months ago that since have been deleted.
Both videos appear under the name, 'Amir Abu Dujana rabbanikaly' which is also the name used by Gadzhimurad Dolgatov, a notorious Dagestani terrorist.
Investigators are pouring over the YouTube account to see if they can confirm whether Tsarnaev had any links with Dolgatov, who was killed by Russian security forces in Makhachkala in December 2012, after a fierce gun battle.
These latest revelations question the adequacy of the U.S intelligence community, who failed to spot the national security threat posed by suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother Dzhokhar, despite the repeated warnings.
On Sunday, a Dagistani police official source revealed to NBC News that the Russian internal security service contacted the FBI in November with some questions about Tamerlan and handed over a copy of a case file on him.
The 26-year-old Chechen, who was living in the U.S. after being granted refugee status in 2002, first caught the eye of authorities after he was spotted meeting with a person involved in the militant Islamic underground movement in Dagestan. They met at a mosque on six occasions, the source said.
The source told NBC the militant and Tsarnaev disappeared before authorities could speak with them; they added that the FBI never responded. A senior law enforcement official said that the FBI's earlier investigation did not turn up anything and they did not have the legal authority to keep tabs on him.
The question law enforcement officials will be asking themselves is, did Tamerlan meet Dolgatov when he visited Makhachkala in 2011?
However, Christopher Swift, professor of national security studies at Georgetown University told CNN that these videos and the fact they were deleted reveal nothing concrete - just yet.
'There is no evidence that these young men were seeking to make a point about Chechnya per se.'
He said he believes it is more likely that they were trying to make a point about themselves, as if to say: 'We are warriors. we have been wronged, people do not understand us and we must be heard.'
The FBI has confirmed that Russia alerted the agency in 2011 that Tsarnaev had ties to 'radical Islam' groups in his homeland. Homeland Security sources have also revealed the agency received tips in 2012 about his ties to extremists connected to a Boston mosque.
Congress is now promising a full inquiry into what intelligence had been unearthed on the suspected bombers that could have alerted authorities.
Rep. Michael McCaul, the Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, called it 'disturbing' that the Chechen immigrant was 'on the FBI radar' in 2011 but was deemed to not be a risk to national security.
04-21-2013, 09:47 PM #2
04-21-2013, 10:05 PM #3
I bet right now they have a lead to a possible shooter/terrorist that they will ignore and sometime fairly soon, they will kill a bunch of people. Almost every single mass murder has leads, our government just would prefer to target people who do nothing suspicious and ignore the likely terrorists.
04-24-2013, 08:10 PM #4
If these guys were looked at and deemed "safe" how dangerous are the people on the Terror Watch List / No Fly List?
04-24-2013, 08:18 PM #5
still not like they could have done anything. There was no previous reason for them to be alarmed, no sense that there was any kind of buildup to the marathon bombings. How many times have either of the brothers been in legal trouble before this?
I could tell someone 'hey your wife is sleeping with one of your neighbors', you might look into it but can't really do anything without absolute proof otherwise it is merely accusations
04-24-2013, 08:40 PM #6
04-24-2013, 09:55 PM #7
You know what they say, "Hindsight is 20/20". Those who choose to blame the government for everything will find fault here as well. It goes without saying. Couple of things to keep in mind in this case; 1) the FBI gets 1,000s of these requests each year, and 2) they took this one seriously, questioned him and tried to follow up with the Russians for more details and were ignored/denied. At least that's what I have heard.
04-25-2013, 04:25 PM #8
CIA wanted Boston suspect on terror watch list
The CIA submitted the name of one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects for a terrorist watch list in fall 2011 after an inquiry about Tamerlan Tsarnaev from Russian authorities concerned about his possible ties to extremists, a U.S. intelligence official said Wednesday. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to discuss the case publicly.