05-06-2013, 07:01 PM #21
christians follow some fairly dumb nothingness dogma. I would not leave my children with any human that was previously charged with pedophilia, or a turkey, or a goat.
How am I a hypocrite? I am the worst kind of atheist that you will ever encounter, the common sense, historical truth kind.
05-06-2013, 09:14 PM #22
How about God actually proves he's real to begin with.
Maybe by showing us some evidence.
Let's start there
05-06-2013, 10:23 PM #23
Explain to me what the reasoning is behind your refusal to even consider that humans can be born with a multitude of varying sexual identities? What is it that makes this so hard to accept? You can talk all you want about your "experiences" with gay couples. If you aren't listening to what they are telling you what difference does it make? If they tell you they have always been gay, why do you refuse to believe it? Why do you, who has no personal experience at being gay, feel you know the truth of their gay origins?
Your stance on this is completely illogical, but what's new.
05-06-2013, 11:02 PM #24
habs, good job at sticking one in there, hope you feel better.
I don't find most gays to be genetically mutated, or born with some disease, or abnormality.
People do all kinds of things that make them experience hatred and rejection, most of what I named are prime examples.
people can be gay without having to have some reason to justify it, they are not freaks and don't need an excuse for their sexual preferences.
what are you afraid if they weren't born that way it leaves anyone open to becoming gay?
05-06-2013, 11:23 PM #25
Saying it's a choice for none is as illogical as saying it's a choice for all."He's gone crazy," "You have to snap out of it," "Take your meds," or, "Don't be such a downer" serve only to mock, belittle, and make light of mental illness. Such phrases only continue the negative stigma and keep those who suffer from getting help. If these phrases, or phrases like them, are part of your at-hand vocabulary, you are part of the problem. #STOPtheStigma
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05-07-2013, 12:04 AM #27
wickabee, perhaps my issue with saying they are born that way is I would then be applying they have a genetic disorder.
from what I know MSH and your sixth chromosome are the genetics that create the desire to mate and reproduce, and without this, their is no species.
I think personal sexuality is just as important as religious beliefs, morals, and values. and people will suffer through what they believe is right, which in essence is right. but I can tell you I cannot argue they are not born homosexual, neither one of us have the proof, it is just my opinion, and one that could be wrong. it is not about believing them or me being right, it is about seeing something a different way.
if they ever find the gay gene, will it be considered a mutation, a syndrome, a disorder?
05-07-2013, 12:31 AM #28
I wasn't meaning to speak in absolutes, obviously sexuality can be more ambiguous than just black and white."So what you want for Christmas"
"Three words HO HO HO"
"I Dont get it"
"HO HO HO" -Wilbon and Kornhiser PTI
05-07-2013, 12:42 AM #29
There is just no correlation at all whatsoever in your statement. You could actually be retarded or severely handicapped for example and convert from Atheism to Christianity and I wouldnt they would be able to baby sit either. A CHristians relationship is between him/herself and god not the babysitter, the gov't, the paper boy etc. So I don't see how it makes much sense to say not leaving your kids with a converted molester has anything to do with a belief in faith.
05-07-2013, 08:05 AM #30
Considering the complexity of the universe it's not hard to imagine that every human is not born the same, unless of course you have a reason to stick your head in the sand.