05-15-2013, 04:17 PM #1
Can someone please explain the difference between a SP and SSP?
I know SP means Short Print and SSP means Super Short Print, but what defines them? Are these relative terms, or are there actual requirements cards have to meet to fall into these categories? I'm just asking, because I always see SPs and SSPs on eBay ... do these sellers actually check to see if what they have really is a short print, or is it just anything less than a common?
05-15-2013, 04:58 PM #2
It is basically all relative. SP might be a card that is in every couple of packs and sell for a few dollars while a SSP might be once in a case or rarer and sell for $100-$1000.
05-15-2013, 05:51 PM #3
Gotcha ... just wondering. With all the SPs I've seen on eBay, I was beginning to wonder what a common card was.
05-15-2013, 10:39 PM #4
however you have to be careful because many sellers will list them as sp when they infact are not. lots of time just a gimmick to get your attention. to me a card that is one in four packs is not an sp yet many will list it that way.My Photobucket
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05-15-2013, 11:35 PM #5
Once again, this is just me trying to reason with something (I'd probably have better luck counting stars in the sky or playing in the Olympics) that isn't black and white. I know there are also tons of reasons why SPs and SSPs can be defined with any true scientific value. Total amount of cards printed, year of printing and the demand for the actual card have to be considered before one could really call a card a Short Print. Like you said, it really is a gimmick when you think about it - I mean, some inserts come 1 in 4 packs.
05-15-2013, 11:46 PM #6
I don't know if you guys saw my other thread, but I have a 1/1 Marshawn Lynch 2012 Panini Championship Ticket. Although, I have no real interest in parting with the card, seeing the 1/1 definitely made me super curious. I'm not the kind of guy who buys cards and sell them for a quick buck (not that that's a bad thing, I just don't have the business skills and know-how to be successful at it). Anyway, I'll just cut to the chase ... Since there is only one card in existence, and grading sites don't have it valued, how does one value the card and establish its worth? Once again, I don't want to upset anybody ... I'm not getting rid of the card, I just want to know if the card is worth anything, or is it just as valuable as the Base Card it parallels?
05-19-2013, 07:03 PM #7
my knowledge is all relative to hockey and golf, however, generally I usually look to eBay for other 1/1's that have sold that are similar to the card. Currently nothing very close on eBay, but I'd keep checking. Or perhaps ask a Lynch collector on the boards for a ball park SV.
05-19-2013, 08:00 PM #8
in allen and ginter the short prints #300 - 330 are not #'d but are short prints. also in topps they insert short prints like topps 2011 bob gibson, and mccovey etc. and those arent #'d either. it just depends on the product. get to know the product your looking for.
baseballcardpedia is pretty good as a refference on stuff like that.
05-19-2013, 09:42 PM #9
05-25-2013, 07:06 PM #10
Hey man for that Lynch card I'd beg to say it may have a kind of "wide" value range. Because the card market this day is so complex, prices tend to jump around. What you'de hope for is to connect to two or more people coming at it with strong demand and then the sky is the limit. So it's tough to say overall and I haven't done any general online card research lately (eBay or here) to be of more help.
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