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    what does everyone think the companies will put out each year

    I know they have a license limit of 11 per company but this is my guess as to what most of the lineups will be:
    Upper Deck
    Series 1 - confirmed
    Series 2
    Black Diamond - confirmed
    Artifacts
    O-Pee-Chee - currently out
    Team Canada - confirmed
    Trilogy - currently out
    SP Authentic
    The Cup
    Ultimate


    Panini
    Prizm - confirmed
    NHL Stickers - yes, i'm counting this because its more fun to do then half of the higher end products are to break
    Score - currently out
    Rookie Anthology
    Limited
    Certified
    Prime

    ITG
    Decades The 90′s - confirmed
    Enforcers II - confirmed
    Heroes and Prospects
    Between The Pipes
    Draft Prospects
    Ultimate Memorabilia 13th edition

    I'm up in the air with the whole SPGU and SPx because they beefed up SPGU last year and minimized SPx to an insert set in SPA boxes. I have a feeling that will repeat and be a 50/50 chance with Ice in products. Possibly with a 12 box case, 6 ice packs and 6 SPx packs.
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    The Team Canada set that UD is doing, I'm pretty sure, is a 12-13 release though.... not a 13-14.

    That puts your list of UD products for the 13-14 season at 9.... and I would imagine all 9 of those will be made. Bet on SPGU to be added to that list, and something retro looking, focusing on retired players (think Parkhurst Champions).

    Panini, I think I read somewhere, are NOT doing Certified this year. I think Prizim is supposed to be replacing it.

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    For Panini there will be no Certified this year. Contenders will also be a product Panini will put out a very good product IMO. Crown Royale will also be produced. Panini will also have Dominion. Titanium has a good chance at being produced. Elite does not. Pinnacle is also a possibility.

    For UD I have no idea for their plans. I can tell you that the 10 products you have listed for them all will be produced (Artifacts is Confirmed). That leaves 1 open spot for SPX or SPGU. I think they might continue to put SPX packs in SPA because the only chase cards in SPX is the AUTO RC Jerseys IMO I like the idea. Unless UD has something up their sleeve then I would put money on SPGU being produced.

    UPDATE: ICE Packs will go in Black Diamond it is confirmed by UD. Look at DA CARD WORLD Presell for 13-14 Black Diamond
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    I saw somewhere that UD Team Canada won't be out until October 29th now. That's pretty bad if it's supposed to be a 12/13 release.

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    The Team Canada product is one that I wasn't sure about in terms of release since it comes out after the 13-14 items started getting released. Same goes with Prime but that's been announced as a 12-13 product since the beginning. UD should just bring back Ice. It was an awesome product every year it was produced and the rookies still held their value even with being a major release vs. an insert set.

    As for Panini, I hope they continue certified. Prizm I have a feeling is on-par with Elite but 10 steps ahead. Unless they plan on continuing Rookie Anthology in 13-14 with all the sets from various un-produced products. I completely forgot about Contenders when making this list but that should probably get produced. I really hope they pass on Crown Royale unless they drop the price significantly. Outside of the Silhouettes, nothing with a great TV or SV comes out of that stuff for the average player. Its sad when a $120 box yields $10 in return but that's the business this is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jogesc2 View Post
    I saw somewhere that UD Team Canada won't be out until October 29th now. That's pretty bad if it's supposed to be a 12/13 release.
    I hope you're wrong about that - I am pretty psyched to open up my box next week if it's still on schedule.

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    In regards to the Team Canada set, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it will count as one of their 10 products. They're taking advantage of their Team Canada license which I think is separate from the NHLPA license. It has been pushed back to October. I can confirm that.

    Here is what I know has been confirmed:

    Upper Deck:

    Trilogy
    OPC
    Artifacts
    Series 1
    Black Diamond
    SP Game Used
    Series 2
    SP Authentic

    The Cup has not been confirmed but I think it's a guarantee. The remaining spot I assume will be SPx or Ultimate Collection. I'd like to see Ice come back but there are no plans for 13/14 Ice.

    Panini:

    Score
    Prizm
    Select
    Dominion
    Titanium

    Certified and Limited are gone. The other products I assume will be Crown Royale, Rookie Anthology, Prime and National Treasures. Can't say for sure what the last one will be though.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakawaysc View Post
    In regards to the Team Canada set, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it will count as one of their 10 products. They're taking advantage of their Team Canada license which I think is separate from the NHLPA license. It has been pushed back to October. I can confirm that.

    Here is what I know has been confirmed:

    Upper Deck:

    Trilogy
    OPC
    Artifacts
    Series 1
    Black Diamond
    SP Game Used
    Series 2
    SP Authentic

    The Cup has not been confirmed but I think it's a guarantee. The remaining spot I assume will be SPx or Ultimate Collection. I'd like to see Ice come back but there are no plans for 13/14 Ice.

    Panini:

    Score
    Prizm
    Select
    Dominion
    Titanium

    Certified and Limited are gone. The other products I assume will be Crown Royale, Rookie Anthology, Prime and National Treasures. Can't say for sure what the last one will be though.

    Hope this helps.
    I'm curious now that your brought up Select. Will it be similar to the 90s stuff with the protective film on top?
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    Honestly I don't know. I was at a retailer summit in Montreal back in June and Panini said Certified was being replaced by Select. Release date around the end of October. That's all I know right now. Pre-orders for stores haven't started yet. Once they do I'll have more info.

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    ITG has "Lord Stanley's Mug" coming out at somepoint in the next season too, I believe. I believe I have also read in one of Dr. Price's post that "In The Game Used" would be back this season, and I'm pretty sure they're doing an Origional 6 version of Superlative.


    The Team Canada product is one that I wasn't sure about in terms of release since it comes out after the 13-14 items started getting released. Same goes with Prime but that's been announced as a 12-13 product since the beginning. UD should just bring back Ice. It was an awesome product every year it was produced and the rookies still held their value even with being a major release vs. an insert set.
    The actual day it hit shelves, seems pretty meaningless to UD anymore. IMO - next time the license comes up for renewal... I hope the NHL / PA put an end to this.

    I do no care when the "cut off" for a set is. If "current year" products need to be released by July, August, September, November - whatever, doesn't bother me.

    What I would like to see though, is an end to mixing the years up, from release to release. For example: Once 13-14 hits the shelves, that's an end to 12-13. No exceptions. I would not hold UD to Panini's schedule, nor would I do it in reverese.... but I do not like the idea of 2-4 13-14 products being released by UD, before they can get the last of their 12-13s finished.


    As for Ice, myself - I never liked it much. No interest in the set, and the boxes were WAY too risky for my preference. Having said that, it was one of their most unique sets. For that reason, I'm surprised it was scrapped. A lot of people liked it.... and by giving people something unique, it seemed (to me) to have more use that sets like SPGU, SPx, Black Diamond, or Trilogy.

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