Gender reassignment question

[habsheaven]

if they keep moving the goal post and changing the rules on me then what?
if they where consistently flaming gay or butch i can can deal with that just fine but im not going to change my behavior every time someone else changes thiers

If you call being respectful in all circumstances "changing the rules"; I don't know what to tell you. If Jane Smith, marries Mr. Doe. I would call her Mrs. Doe. If she then divorces and reverts back to Smith, I will call her that. If she then marries Mr. Greenberg, I will call her Mrs. Greenberg when warranted. At no time will I think I am being asked to "change" my behaviour to accommodate her.

[habsheaven]

if you are born a man you are a man, doesn't matter if you have your private parts removed or some added. still a man/woman.
your dna says you are a man/woman not how you look.

my buddy at work is over 300lbs and he has breast lol that doesnt make him a woman

i dont understand people.

You are right, you don't understand people.

People are not all created as simply as you would like to think. People are not only born with male and female anatomy, they are also born with male and female gender orientation and different sexual orientations.

Life is complex. Those that choose to think otherwise are lazy, ignorant or both.

[shrewsbury]

I am in agreement with habs except for this

they are also born with different sexual orientations.

I do not think this is something that is innate, but I could be wrong.

[habsheaven]

I am in agreement with habs except for this



I do not think this is something that is innate, but I could be wrong.

So you chose your sexual orientation Jay?

[duane1969]

So you chose your sexual orientation Jay?

So people are either gay or straight from birth? Hmmmm...you might want to call Anne Heche and let her know what her sexual orientation is since she can't seem to figure it out on her own.

I think it is funny. You don't like someone putting homosexuality in a box by saying it is a choice, yet you put it in a box by saying it is not. Clearly there are instances that support both positions.

[habsheaven]

So people are either gay or straight from birth? Hmmmm...you might want to call Anne Heche and let her know what her sexual orientation is since she can't seem to figure it out on her own.

I think it is funny. You don't like someone putting homosexuality in a box by saying it is a choice, yet you put it in a box by saying it is not. Clearly there are instances that support both positions.

Where did I say that? Please don't put words in my mouth. Did you ever consider that there are more than 2 sexual orientations?

[shrewsbury]

So you chose your sexual orientation Jay?

did you choose to walk? did you choose to eat? somethings are natural but can be altered via environment

[habsheaven]

did you choose to walk? did you choose to eat? somethings are natural but can be altered via environment

You didn't answer the question.

[mrveggieman]

Why haven't they thought up a neutral word to refer to people when you are unsure of what to call them. Funny ya'll are having this discussion I was job hunting a while back and got a call from a person who I wasn't sure if it was a gay male or a female with a terrible sounding voice. I called in and asked for the person by full name. The lady who answered said that he is not in the office right now. If they can come up with new words for everything else why not a new non offensive word for these types of situations?

[duane1969]

Where did I say that? Please don't put words in my mouth. Did you ever consider that there are more than 2 sexual orientations?

You dodged the question as well. You ding Jay for his statement that it is a choice, yet you totally ignore that your position that it is not a choice is just as flawed. You are no more correct than he is. Some choose it, some feel that way their entire life.

And yes I know there are more than two sexual choices.

If you call being respectful in all circumstances "changing the rules"; I don't know what to tell you. If Jane Smith, marries Mr. Doe. I would call her Mrs. Doe. If she then divorces and reverts back to Smith, I will call her that. If she then marries Mr. Greenberg, I will call her Mrs. Greenberg when warranted. At no time will I think I am being asked to "change" my behaviour to accommodate her.

Those are titles, not gender definitions. Try to focus. Calling an obvious man a woman's name or vice versa because they want to be called that is absolutely nothing like calling someone by a different surname that was changed legally based on marital status.