Alabama Supreme Court Reviews Shocking Evidence Obama’s Birth Certificate Likely Fake

[ajcorleone]

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Well if you look at even expenses you'd have to take into account for inflation. I guess my point is even if he gets scrutinized does it really mean he's doing more vacationing or more expensive vacationing than other presidents. I could just find vacations days, which to date he is much lower than some others. He's currently under 200 and there were some other two term presidents who were in the 400s. Now, one could take a 10 day vacation and have it cost well below someone taking a 3 day vacation so I can't really speak to expenses.

I agree that there is lots of waste in washington. I'm not attacking one side. It just so happens that in this case the people of waste are Reps... or at least I assume they are Reps. I never checked. If a group of Dem officials wanted to question a Rep presidents birth certificate in this exact same scenario I would have a problem with it, Especially if it included a "research" trip to Hawaii. I myself am neither Dem or Rep and even if people want to bicker back and forth to say which side is better, to me, they are pretty much all the same and have the same overall goal which is keeping themselves employed and in the system.

If one example of waste could just be trumped by another then what would be the point of discussing a specific instance of waste such as this?

I am with you there I find it that neither side has the peoples interest just their own agendas

[shrewsbury]

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Obama's actions and words towards Islam make him look like a moderate, thinking man, not prone to rhetoric. Of course his opponents would call that a sympathizer, and his insane opponents would call him a Muslim in the flesh. (Oh yeah, and christianity is in my family. So what?)and you have commented on its beauty, spoke of its greatness? no, you just leave out facts that make your arguments go any way you want

So now you are joking about his citizenship. That's convincing. Unfortunately most that make the claim are dead serious and insane.never been on the BC bandwagon and could care less if I convince someone like you

No one is claiming climate change is ALL man-made. I am talking about the people that claim that the man-made climate change is minimal, or those that claim climate change is non-existent.sure, change it up

The socialist claim is also nonsense. You already live in a social democracy. Obama has added health care to the spectrum. Something ALL politicians have been trying to solve for decades. A "socialist" country is on a whole different level. Canada, Australia and the UK are not even socialist countries despite our health care systems. It's all ignorant rhetoric from people that do not know what socialism is.wanting to be one and being one are two different things, but ignorant rhetoric from people who can not see that is common

Yes, vaccines kill every now and then. That doesn't make them more dangerous than no one taking them.and who said it was? just you

Common sense is the friend of no one in this group of Republicans.sure, you libs show a lot of it

Edit: you skipped the 9/11 conspirators, Who was behind the "inside job" in your opinion? Can we have the names and actions?didn't skip it, mentioned it in first response to your nonsense, but that did not fit into your stereotype so you left it out

habs this response shows why some people on here think you are arrogant and can be a jerk, you cannot even read what people post, you read what you want it to say and change up anything you post to fit your agenda.

also you left out religion, why, why, why, why?

and anyone can make a list and try to stereotype all within a certain group. just shows how you do not think outside of the box and limit yourself, though you think you are not.

when people don't respond to you, it is not because you know more or won a debate, but because you are just not worth responding to when you act like this.

[AUTaxMan]

Different lawsuit.

No, it isn't.

[habsheaven]

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Answers to the bolded text:

You implied Obama has Muslims in his family as if it was another reason to suspect he could be either Muslim or a sympathizer. I added my relationship to Christians to show you that having family in a religion does not mean you support that religion too. Not sure what you are talking about.

You took a list of items and replied you agreed with one (the Birthers) Why I would know that is a joke, or why you would joke about that ONE, is beyond me. If you don't agree with them, fine. Just a strange time for a "joke".

Change what up? I didn't mention anything about man-made in my list. That was in your response.

Yes, wanting to be a socialist and being one are two different things. Thinking he wants to be one must be based on his actions or words. If you think anything he has ever said or done proves this, you don't know what socialism is.

Yes, we do. I know I do. If that makes me sound arrogant, so what? Just because I can say it? You don't think you are? I thought so. Another attempt to insult. Here's a hint. Arrogant people don't care if you call them arrogant. We relish in it.

Yes, you did skip it. You mentioned everything in the first response to my list. You skipped it in the second response.

habs this response shows why some people on here think you are arrogant and can be a jerk, you cannot even read what people post, you read what you want it to say and change up anything you post to fit your agenda.

Arrogant? Jerk? Probably. Or maybe it's just sure of myself when debating someone with an illogical position. Go back to my list. I didn't change anything up. And I read everything you posted and responded in kind. Review the post and show me what I "changed".

also you left out religion, why, why, why, why?

Because it was a weak, broad argument on my part and not worth trying to defend.

and anyone can make a list and try to stereotype all within a certain group. just shows how you do not think outside of the box and limit yourself, though you think you are not.

I was not stereotyping everyone, just pointing out the obvious links between many of the similar thinkers. If you noticed I did not refute the claim that the was made that someone thinks the 9/11 conspirators are mostly Democratic.

when people don't respond to you, it is not because you know more or won a debate, but because you are just not worth responding to when you act like this.

Keep telling yourself this. (When are you going to research the Jesus myth and the accountant myth?)

Responses in bold.

[shrewsbury]

habs, wrong again, I do not have time to play this game all day.
I never said Obama was a Muslim.

I agreed with you that those who think the BC scandal is real, are dumb.

twist, twist, twist

Have a good day

[habsheaven]

habs, wrong again, I do not have time to play this game all day.
I never said Obama was a Muslim.

I agreed with you that those who think the BC scandal is real, are dumb.

twist, twist, twist

Have a good day

Whatever Jay. I never said that you said Obama was a Muslim, so not sure what I am wrong about.

Of course you don't have time. You don't even have time to respond to all the points in the last post.

Twist? Twist? Twist? Where? Point it out.

How about avoid, avoid, avoid?

Typical!!

[shrewsbury]

You implied Obama has Muslims in his family as if it was another reason to suspect he could be either Muslim or a sympathizer.

. I never said that you said Obama was a Muslim

think what you must

[habsheaven]

think what you must

Think what I must? It's right in front of your eyes. You posted it. That's not saying Jay thinks Obama is a Muslim. It's saying Jay thinks because Obama has Muslims in his family that it is reason for PEOPLE to think such.

You have a real hard time with context, don't you?

How about the rest?

You have time to comment on the part you think you have a leg to stand on and ignore the rest.

I posted a list. You commented on it with either agreement, disagreement or variations of what I said in your post #10.

What did I twist? Where did I change what I originally said?

Where is your response to 9/11 in post #16? Why did you skip following up on your 9/11 response?

Oh look, I'm being a JERK for trying to make you accountable for your posts.

[JustAlex]

This is the same Alabama Supreme court that is fighting to the death to not allow gays to get married.

SO MUCH that they won't even do straight marriages either.

Jesus freaking Christ.

I'm so god damned embarrassed!

[AUTaxMan]

This is the same Alabama Supreme court that is fighting to the death to not allow gays to get married.

SO MUCH that they won't even do straight marriages either.

Jesus freaking Christ.

I'm so god damned embarrassed!

Actually, the ALSC dismissed this case a year ago.

Also, the ALSC is not fighting against gay marriage. The chief justice is.