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03-20-2015, 02:03 AM #1
Beckett is a waste ?
So I just purchased the Beckett guide online to start priceing my collection. I notice that 85% of itg cards are not priced At all??? For instance itg stickwork is all NA for pricing. Beckett is no good if it can't give me a estimated price am I wrong ? I understand somewhat on low numbers cards and 1/1 but there are so many cards that have no price value in Beckett. I guess there just a big waste and we should let eBay decide our cards value ?
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03-20-2015, 07:48 AM #2
The most copies of any card inserted into Stickwork was 19, if I recall correctly. That would likely be the reason for no pricing.
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03-20-2015, 08:10 AM #3
I usually buy one per year because of trading purposes (unless I need one for a more specific reason). They serve their purpose in trying to find a common price point for a card, but obviously it's important to realize that it isn't the be all end all. Usually I look at the book, then check ebay, and find some sort of common ground.
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03-20-2015, 08:20 AM #4
They won't price anything under 20 (or 25?) copies, because there would not be sufficient market data to get a price range.
Lot's of things I find useless with Beckett (I'm convinced they use a formula to price cards, not actual market research) but I have to agree with that policy.
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03-20-2015, 11:26 AM #5
While one may have their own opinions about Beckett's utility, it's pretty common knowledge that cards under a certain print run don't get priced due to scarcity. There's a lack of sufficient market information to make a proper assessment--if a card from Stickwork has a print run of 9, they'll see some wild swings from one auction to the next BIN listing...if any even surface.
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03-20-2015, 12:10 PM #6
Actually these days their new cut-off seems to be a print run of 10 as you can find the pricing for the ITG Silver Stickwork cards out of 19.The want list at this link features what I need of Gretzky, Roy, Ottawa Senators, and Miscellaneous sets. I also have a CFL want list on my page and if you have nothing from it I will consider other traders of current Ottawa Senators,Guy Lafleur, + trade bait.
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03-20-2015, 12:28 PM #7
Beckett should not be taken too seriously. They try to price items but the market changes so rapidly with the release of new products and volatile players. I buy it sometimes for the articles and product previews but ebay offers a nice market value on cards since a lot of collectors use it.
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03-20-2015, 12:30 PM #8
The only way today to build a proper price guide is to pull and analyze sold data from Ebay. For vintage graded there is a great subscription tool called Vintage Card Prices. I can run a query on PSA 7 1965 Esposito's and see the last 30 sales, with images of the card sold and a link to the auction.
If I wasn't so busy with work and family I'd build out a similar pricing engine using raw Ebay data for modern and raw cards. I'm surprised Beckett never took this route, focused on their core service - card pricing - and partnered with Ebay as opposed to trying to build their own marketplace.
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03-20-2015, 01:52 PM #9
25 is no longer a threshold for Beckett to not price something. That was the case before when those cards were limited but now with a lot of low numbering in sets I've seen them price stuff way lower than that. Why they do it for some sets and others I don't know but maybe they have more interest in non ITG stuff?
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03-20-2015, 02:30 PM #10
It just feels like they way things are going there are a lot of sp cards lower number cards and if there is no listings are n eBay we do not know the real value. I'm suggesting a scale to grade in known value of a card a list players b list players c list players
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