Patch forger... caught!

**Cerialthriller** · 06-04-2009, 02:40 PM

if some dude who worked in there gave you some jerseys out the back door you have no way of authenticating them. It still loses it value because it is no longer an authentic licensed card. Maybe I wouldnt mind if the card cost like $5 instead of $200 and I knew before hand.

You could possibly catch an ebay seller if he bought the card on ebay and the original sellers scan shows a different patch then the card that you just sold on ebay.

**~~TheRoseBull~~** · 06-04-2009, 02:52 PM

wow thats crazy! thank god someone caught on!

**SenatorsFan** · 06-04-2009, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Cerialthriller

You could possibly catch an ebay seller if he bought the card on ebay and the original sellers scan shows a different patch then the card that you just sold on ebay.

Quite true, I guess the smarter ones make sure there aren't any scans floating around online

**dahabsfan** · 06-04-2009, 04:35 PM

For anyone who is wondering and didn't read the original post both Ebay ID's are linked to the same person. There's several cases presented showing the person buying the plain swatch and selling the altered swatch. The Malkin LL for example was bought as a marginal 2 color by kao_seneca and also relisted by kao_seneca as the altered 250 Logo version. The Weber was purchased using the one ID and sold with the other. Even though the name on the ebay account was different they were matched via the users IP's to a known IP for that individual thus it is the same fella runing both accounts. You can put any name you want to appear in the ebay information.

Darren

**Prime B** · 06-04-2009, 05:38 PM

Wow, what a hobby! LOL

**sholi2000** · 06-04-2009, 09:21 PM

The loser is question is also a HI member. I hope that the mods here look into his ID's.

**cards-gotta-go** · 06-04-2009, 10:56 PM

Back on topic you two...

Dude is a scumbag, and if he's here, he should be banned from here too.
Same goes for EVERY hobby site.

**CoolHandLuke** · 06-04-2009, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by cards-gotta-go

Dude is a scumbag, and if he's here, he should be banned from here too.
Same goes for EVERY hobby site.

I can confirm that SCF is on the case and that this person never traded here and probably never will once all info is confirmed. So don't worry about that part.

Also let's keep this thread on the topic intended.

**Goose97** · 06-05-2009, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by dahabsfan

For anyone who is wondering and didn't read the original post both Ebay ID's are linked to the same person. There's several cases presented showing the person buying the plain swatch and selling the altered swatch. The Malkin LL for example was bought as a marginal 2 color by kao_seneca and also relisted by kao_seneca as the altered 250 Logo version. The Weber was purchased using the one ID and sold with the other. Even though the name on the ebay account was different they were matched via the users IP's to a known IP for that individual thus it is the same fella runing both accounts. You can put any name you want to appear in the ebay information.

Darren

I find this quite amazing indeed. With all the work this guy went forward to purchase the typical plain jane cards, and the extra specialized effort to re-work them into a more eyecatching, and appealing bite for someone wanting a marvelous patch..... You would think that this guy would have though a better way to avoid detection, and right there. Easy for all with good eyes, and memories. Plain as day! A fraud is spotted.

Gifted, but not smart.

I think however they should give this guy a job at Upper Deck......
Strike that! Not a job..... Community service duty instead.