View Full Version : Ballparks and the changing of history.

08-08-2011, 10:11 AM
While watching last nights Yankees vs. Red Sox game something became more evident than it had before.All ballparks in baseball are not created equal,in football you have the same field,the same with basketball,hockey rinks differ in size but not that much.Nick Swisher hit a ball to centerfield that was caught somewhere between 410 and 415 feet,in most other parks a home run,but in Fenway just a long out.

Here are some interesting calls you might've heard had the games taken place somewhere else.Bobby Thompson up to bat Ralph Branca with the pitch,Thompson hits a long fly ball to left at Ebbett's field it might be a home run,no it is caught on the warning track the runners retreat to 1st and 2nd 2 outs,Willie Mays coming to bat.Vic Wertz coming to bat for the Indians he hits a long flyball to center Willie Mays runs back looks up and it is gone Home Run for Wertz.One of my favorites,Bucky Dent coming up against Mike Torres,runners on 1st and 2nd here at Yankee Stadium,Dent hits a long flyball to left Yastrzemski camping under it 3 outs and the Red Sox hold the lead.

With games being played at different venues things might've been different,No the Giants did not win the Pennant,Willie's great catch would've been a home run,Bucky's Homer would've been an out,and maybe the Red Sox end the Curse 26 years earlier.It also works for players,the argument is and always has been had Dimaggio played at Fenway and Williams at Yankee Stadium their numbers would've changed dramatically.

Home field advantage is not necessarily home field advantage,there are so many examples where if the game was played away the outcome most likely would've been different.I feel that is what seperates baseball from the other sports,Franco Harris would've still had the Immaculate reception,Dwight Clark would've still had the catch,Scott Norwood still would,ve been wide right.Michael Jordan still hits his buzzer beaters against the Cavaliers and Blazers,Christian Laettner still wins it for Duke.In hockey The Miracle on ice still happens,Stephane Matteau still scores against Brodeur in triple overtime,but in baseball the dimensions can and will change everything.

Wouldn't it be fun to go back in time and have some of these games played elsewhere,I would love to have a time machine and take all these great moments and games in baseball and change venues,the outcomes might still be the same,but alot of the plays would've been different,just a little food for thought,and take care my fellow baseball fans,and remember you might not want home field advantage as it could come back to bite you,take care and enjoy the history as it's being made Steve

08-08-2011, 06:19 PM
...and would Jeters HR been a HR if the fan didn't catch it and pull it into the stands against the Orioles.

Thanks for the great read Steve. I just never thought about baseball this way. BTW..I have a Bobby Thompson auto 8x10 of him hitting the homer over the left field wall (got it from getting a Tuff Stuff mag subscription years back). Anyway, I used to think that way about the old Busch stadium. It was never known to be a HR hitters ballpark until McGwire came around. I just wonder how many HRs the like of Jack Clark, Keith Hernandez and others might have had as a Cardinal had Busch stadium been configured to be more friendly for the power hitters.

08-08-2011, 07:21 PM
Thanks Don,I always thought about certain players and how their careers would've been completely different,but I never really thought of certain plays in games and how the outcomes would've changed.Does Jeter's catch and dive into the stands happen on a field with less foul territory,it just seems that alot of baseball's history can be attributed to the Stadium the game was played in.Very cool to have a Thompson autograph,as it's always nice to have a piece of baseball americana,but just think when we're in our 80's God willing we live that long some of the pieces in our collections will be just that.To the kid being born today that autographed A-rod collection you have may as well be Mickey Mantle,I'll never make money off of my collection but I'm sure my son will,take care Steve

08-11-2011, 06:58 PM
You bring up good points. Every other sport plays on the same field.

08-11-2011, 08:59 PM
Another sport with differences in venues is racing (different tracks, conditions, etc.), but drivers are racing against the same guys each week for the most part. Golf as well (different courses), but you can't really compare baseball to racing or golf.

08-13-2011, 03:35 PM
Good stuff indeed Steve! Thanks for the read :)

published here: http://www.sportscardforum.com/articles/2011/08/ball-parks-and-the-changing-of-history/

08-13-2011, 11:22 PM
Thanks Karine !!!