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blinkfan77
02-04-2007, 10:51 PM
i have the base set rookie, UD, of kobe, and i have a really old beckett that lists it at 8 bucks. i just wanna say ive been out of the hobby for like 8 years, and am interested in getting back in, but how come the value of his card was/is so low? arent ud base rc's supposed to be high? thanks.

mattyj
02-04-2007, 11:19 PM
Upper Deck base RCs usually book fairly low, Kobe's best RCs to get are Topps Chrome, Finest and refractors of both of these :)

Hands
02-04-2007, 11:22 PM
Most card prices from the 90s have plummeted in value because of Ebay and people who put cards there for $1 reserve just to save sellers fee. You will find that it is not only Kobe's UD rookie that has dropped in value. Hope this helped you? Cheers

tradebark
02-04-2007, 11:25 PM
Nope

Few things worth noting.. First, the "era" back then (basically mid to late 90's) basketball cards were overproduced.. Which means tons of brands/inserts/rookies etc, and led to oversaturation of the secondary market and low single values..

Also, while some products these days (most UD, some Topps) have rookie cards inserted as "hits" (like numbered out of 1000, or at a rate of 1 in 4, or whatever), back then most RC's were just considered another base card in terms of difficulty of the pull.

Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, there is a big disparity between the best card/s of a player and the "next best;" this goes for any card basically.

Kobe's Topps Chrome RC went for $400 BV back then, and while that number has went down considerably, it's the same idea. A Kobe EX2000 Credentials RC, or Finest Refractor RC, or Topps Chrome RC all have astronomical value, whereas anything from a cheaper pack is basically worthless in terms of sell value.

It's a bit of a shock (well, maybe not really) but most cards you collected back then are more than likely close to worthless now. I am in the same situation as you, and came back after not collecting for about 10 years.. Unless you have some high-end cards (parallels/rare inserts of finest, chrome, EX, or z-force in particular) it's unlikely you'll be finding any hidden gems in your old stash

blinkfan77
02-04-2007, 11:44 PM
Nope

Few things worth noting.. First, the "era" back then (basically mid to late 90's) basketball cards were overproduced.. Which means tons of brands/inserts/rookies etc, and led to oversaturation of the secondary market and low single values..

Also, while some products these days (most UD, some Topps) have rookie cards inserted as "hits" (like numbered out of 1000, or at a rate of 1 in 4, or whatever), back then most RC's were just considered another base card in terms of difficulty of the pull.

Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, there is a big disparity between the best card/s of a player and the "next best;" this goes for any card basically.

Kobe's Topps Chrome RC went for $400 BV back then, and while that number has went down considerably, it's the same idea. A Kobe EX2000 Credentials RC, or Finest Refractor RC, or Topps Chrome RC all have astronomical value, whereas anything from a cheaper pack is basically worthless in terms of sell value.

It's a bit of a shock (well, maybe not really) but most cards you collected back then are more than likely close to worthless now. I am in the same situation as you, and came back after not collecting for about 10 years.. Unless you have some high-end cards (parallels/rare inserts of finest, chrome, EX, or z-force in particular) it's unlikely you'll be finding any hidden gems in your old stash


thanks man, i appreciate the time you took to type that. im having fun looking at my old nba collection. duncans, van horns (lol) iverson, kobe. and btw, does anyone remember the "apparition" cards? i think maybe topps? the jordan one is one of the nicest cards ive ever seen.

tradebark
02-04-2007, 11:48 PM
Hey no problem :)

I find the whole situation pretty interesting, and seeing as how you are in pretty much the same situation that I was in, I had to help you out!

One of the things that I really found helpful was just using eBay completed auctions to gauge the value of your cards. Beckett, while a good tool for setting up trades and stuff, is not even close to being an accurate judge of market value for 99% of the cards listed.

tierre_brown
02-05-2007, 12:09 AM
Actually, weren't the Apparitions the Finest subset? Those were some really nice cards; I actually liked the design of the mid 90s finest inserts and stuff...

And welcome back to the hobby, I faced the same shock when I came back about 3 years ago.

WilyWestbrook0
02-05-2007, 12:13 AM
I still get nostalgic for my childhood days of the '90s. Remember how great Stadium Club cards used to smell? :-)

blinkfan77
02-05-2007, 01:07 AM
lol remember how cheap collectors choice was! haha. i actually just looked up the apparitions in beckett. its topps apparitions 98/99. i have the MJ and its listed at 40$ the highest one of course :) it took me a lot to get this trade with my friend like 9 years ago.

WilyWestbrook0
02-05-2007, 01:19 AM
Collector's Choice was a disaster. I liked the MVP sets though - better than the Rookie Debut stuff that seems to have replaced them now ..

tierre_brown
02-05-2007, 01:41 AM
I loved the draft redemption sets that Topps and CC had...had the 96-97 CC and the 97-98 topps one...until my binder got stolen at school =( Lost close to $400 worth of cards (at that time) in that one day...

mattyj
02-05-2007, 10:28 PM
Collector's Choice was a disaster. I liked the MVP sets though - better than the Rookie Debut stuff that seems to have replaced them now ..

Collectors Choice rocked :tongue: i opened so many packs of the first set (94/95) i reckon i nearly completed the Silver Signiture set! LoL

zachattack9389
02-06-2007, 09:13 PM
i strongly advise anyone with the time to look back at their old collections...you never know what you will find...

a while ago, my dad read an article that talked about tiger woods's sports illustrated for kids "rookie card" and how valuable it was. i spent 5 minutes looking through my vat of cards, and lo and behold, there it was...its a 150$ card now :)

and another thing...anyone remember the million dollar moment cards or the diamond ink cards? how much of a rip off were those? you had to collect like a thousand of them just to get an autographed card...those made me so mad lol.

i liked it better when getting a jersey or autograph card was an amazing occasion and when inserts and parallels were the coolest cards on the block :)