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skippy
10-23-2008, 09:05 AM
Why do traders alway insist that there Ru'd that are double or triple cards are actually multi color.

In reality you take a triple Hat from this year, this is some great pieces out there, and they have a solid colr for all three hats but yet somebody will try and pass it off as a three color Triple Hat and really lookng for a premium. Now if they have a piece that is actually a two or three color they will pass it as a 4-5 color.

This goes for all Ru'd cards. You see a Triple Thread card and they pass it as a three color when it is really just a plain ole triple thread.

People really need to check reality on this.....

3DALESR
10-23-2008, 09:19 AM
I guess Iím one of those guys that need to have a reality check up, Ill ask my doctor about why I think Iím seeing several different colors on a one card!
So when I look at a card and I see 3 different colors of fabric or sheet metal, it really isnít really 3 colors at all, right? Thereís only 1 color really. Now I understand.

ericmccoy75
10-23-2008, 09:20 AM
I agree with you 100%. I have seen that all over and even at some shows. Why they do it is probably just to get the attention to their thread, auction, etc. But it is ones true view as to how they see the card. I always see it as solid swatchs unless the one swatch is true to be more than one color.

skippy
10-23-2008, 09:46 AM
I guess Iím one of those guys that need to have a reality check up, Ill ask my doctor about why I think Iím seeing several different colors on a one card!
So when I look at a card and I see 3 different colors of fabric or sheet metal, it really isnít really 3 colors at all, right? Thereís only 1 color really. Now I understand.


So in other words Kevin when you go and trade that three solid color triple thread card you are going to ask a premium for it because it is a multi color card. So if the card lists for 80.00 you are going to ask that you take a multi color multiplier with it and boost the price for the sail or trade?

Of course you are going to have three different color solid color pieces of the suit. Is that a true multi color card for a premium? Or would it be a regular race used card. Now say one of those pieces had a two color vairiation to it, that would then be a true 2 color piece....

JUQ1115
10-23-2008, 02:04 PM
I agree that they shouldn't carry a higher book value necessarily for trading but most of the time they do sell better and get more $ if your selling/buying. That is just people's taste's. I would pay more for a triple hat that had 3 different colored pieces than one that 3 of the same color, I would probably pay a little more even if it had only 2 different colors. Probably doesn't make sense but that is the way it is I guess.

I think the reality is that technically it shouldn't carry more BV$ if you were trading for it but you know people will pay more for it if there buying b/c it is more unique in looks I guess although you know that probably there are many more like it with the same colors. Asthetically it seems it would be worth more but that probably isn't the actual case with at least some of the cards like this. It depends on the driver of course too.

It really depends on if your trading or selling/buying. It is just one of those things I guess...

leemozoid
10-23-2008, 02:41 PM
It's in the eye of the beholder. I will accept both definitions. On a single piece memorabilia card I would expect at least two discernable colors not counting scratches in metal exposing underlying primer. I also agree with Kevin. I have seen numerous dual and triple memorabilia pieces where both or all three pieces are the same or different colors. If two or more colors are represented on a single card I have no problem whatsoever calling it multicolor. As to whether that in and of itself should command a premium is a matter for a buyer and seller and not relevant to a semantical discussion about the nature of the card itself.

pa43fan
10-23-2008, 04:56 PM
to me if a triple hat is black/gray/red it is multi colored. now to have a multi colored piece in one hat is a swatch multi colored.

now i do think a black/gray/red triple hat would sell for more than a triple hat with all three swatches being just black.


so it really is in what you as a collector are willing to spend.

dave

skippy
10-23-2008, 05:03 PM
This is going good, lets keep the opinions coming. Really would like to know what everybody truelly thinks.

Thanks so far.

Mike

TheXsRacer
10-23-2008, 07:22 PM
To me I think its all crazy with the colors and such, and Personally I think some of the cards they come out with are just laughable. The H.A.T. cards in particular. Right now the Jeff Gordon Foundation has Victory Lane Photoshoot hats up for auction at less than these cards probably book at. If they're gonna put hats in the cards let them be Redemptions for the entire hat, and Paralells with Autographed hats. You take a guy who wins 6 races in a year, In Victory Lane at each race he puts on probably 10-20 Hats for pictures Thats 60-120 hats that can be pulled from packs.

I Totally Agree though on the Multi-colors, Unles an individual piece of Material has multiple colors than you do not have a Real Multi color piece...

I've got a Winners Circle Team Authentics 1/64 w/ the piece of race used sheet metal, Its got a Rubber mark across it. Does this make it multi-colored, and more Valuable? Because if it does, I guess since its from the last year of the old Rainbow Paint Scheme, That should jump the value too.....LOL

Labontebrothersfan
10-23-2008, 07:28 PM
There are arguments for both side - which probably causes the problem

I think the Double & Triple Hats can be called multi-color if you have 2 or 3 different color hat patches. Because there are Double & Triple Hats with all pieces the same color.

Now - when you are talking multi media - like firesuit & glove or hat & shoe it gets tricky. Do two different solid color pieces of different items count as multi-color? I have to go with yes. It makes for a more interesting card. But I can also understand why some people would say no.

Collecting is very subjective. People will pay outrageous prices for cards of their favorite driver.

Bottom line in a sale/trade is both sides have to be happy with the deal or you just walk away.

TyrantsASupremeBeing
10-23-2008, 07:45 PM
Howdy, to ME this is multi colored cause theres four colors tho the reds look the same, but i WOULD NOT try to sell as a multi colored piece unless 1 had multi colors in it, but thats meeeeee

The Tyrant

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TyrantsASupremeBeing
10-23-2008, 07:56 PM
Does the red splotch make this multi colored, i no tink sooo

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now this IS multi colored
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rksnascards
10-23-2008, 08:24 PM
Can I add my 2-cents?

To me a Triple Hat Card that has black/red/black swathces is multi-colored...and may be cause for a higher price.

The same for a Double Hat that has blue/green swatches.

A Single Hat that has a blue/green/red swatch is a great find...and will always demand that higher dollar amount.

Is that middle-of-the-road?

Now...let's get really confused....

I've seen a couple eBay Auctions for multi-color Burning Rubber Cards.

What the hey? A "flat" spot on a tire is NOT a color...or am I missing something?

munozqc886
10-29-2008, 12:23 AM
This is Multicolor:
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doG sI kcivraH
10-29-2008, 01:56 AM
Here's my thoughts

NOT multicolor:
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Multicolor:
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Sick:
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That's how I would label them