https://www.sportscardforum.com/blogs/42695-frozenheroes SportsCardForum is your source for everything related to sports cards for collectors and non-collectors alike! en Sun, 07 Jun 2026 01:51:43 GMT vBulletin 60 https://www.sportscardforum.com/images/misc/rss.jpg https://www.sportscardforum.com/blogs/42695-frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2176-That-Old-Rookie-Card-Snafu-Again Sat, 07 Nov 2015 21:46:27 GMT Boy what a hot topic issue right now. We usually get about one or two emails asking about 'Rookie' clarification a week and lately it seems to be one or two a day. First let me say don't trust the card companies who slap the word 'ROOKIE' around or put 'RC' on cards at will. They have a very vested interest in driving people to their product and driving prices up for them. Years ago at least half of these so called rookie cards (Pacific, Ultra, Topps) actually weren't rookies at all. Now it is simply a case of production costs, headaches and terminology. Only one regular issue card per product from a 'rookie' year is considered an actual rookie card. Parallels, Signature cards, jersey cards and other variations are simply considered rookie year issues. Just because the card company put an RC on a card doesn't mean it is. The same goes for guys selling these cards. They know that these aren't actual rookie cards but for their own purpose namely money, they use it or justify it. To clarify even further, nothing from the Tim Horton's cards is a rookie card despite several listings I've seen claiming such. Do you homework, check the Beckett and if that fails ask us. Don't trust just the guy selling the card because there is a good chance his answer will be money driven. And not your money ! ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2176-That-Old-Rookie-Card-Snafu-Again https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2175-CONNOR-McDAVID-YG-RC Sat, 07 Nov 2015 21:43:12 GMT I was asked my opinion on the Connor McDavid YG RC coming out of 2015-16 Upper Deck Series 1. First I live by my card rule that in most cases 'PATIENCE' is a virtue. There are so many of these cards available and the market will get flooded even more than it is now when retail product kicks out in a week or so. I firmly believe that $300 for this card is ridiculous and that much like Nathan MacKinnon you will see a significant price correction in a few months. So be patient and wait for the selling prices to come down unless you really want to pay these unreasonable prices. ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2175-CONNOR-McDAVID-YG-RC https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2174-If-you-don-t-know-what-you-have-or-don-t-know-it-s-value-–-don-t-sell-it-! Sat, 07 Nov 2015 21:42:20 GMT Another one of those touchy subjects by a member of a forum I belong to so I thought I'd voice in on. I've mentioned it before but I'll say it again IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE OR DON'T KNOW IT'S VALUE – DON'T SELL IT !
I cannot tell you the hundreds of stories I've heard and seen first hand from people losing thousands of dollars because of crooks taking their items for a fraction of their value. I've caught guys doing this and been threatened by them because I told guys not to sell their stuff that cheap.
A seven hundred dollar Gordie Howe card taken from a young guy for fifteen bucks by a flea market scammer. The young guy didn't know the value of the cards he had and the flea market guy knew he had a pigeon. Sadly this happens all the time.
My advice is simple and I'll repeat it. If you have something and don't know its value and you can't find someone you trust to help ASK ME. I'll tell you what it is, what its current book value is and what you can expect to get for selling it.
Now that being said if you have cards that are older than 1990 you start to get into condition price variances. Is the card creased, does it have worn corners, is it centered, does it still have the factory color and gloss and the biggie for some more expensive rookie cards – is it real or fake. In these cases I may not be able to give you a ball park price because some of these things need to be seen and you may need to send me a quality scan or picture.
Hopefully those reading this are spared from being screwed or ripped off by a greedy hobby crook.
Happy collecting and feel free to contact me if you have questions or concerns.
]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2174-If-you-don-t-know-what-you-have-or-don-t-know-it-s-value-–-don-t-sell-it-! https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2170-Greed-and-Deceit Mon, 02 Nov 2015 20:53:11 GMT After talking to a new client the other day and telling him our story of forty years in the hobby he asked what stands out the most about the hobby. I said without hesitation that the amount of greed... After talking to a new client the other day and telling him our story of forty years in the hobby he asked what stands out the most about the hobby. I said without hesitation that the amount of greed and deceit in the hobby is terrible. The hobby has been infiltrated by greedy people not collectors and we have seen deceit in epidemic proportions. Now we have 'scammers lists' and 'blocked buyers' lists, heck we even started tracking people we don't want to deal with.


It was a lengthy discussion and at times it bordered on me ranting but for a new guy wanting into the hobby when he asked me if it was worth it I had a hard time saying yes. I mean honestly, over the years I've seen more bad than good.Between the outrageous prices from both card company and from money hungry sellers and the low lifes who lie and cheat buyers out of their money and never send the item there is a lot of not so nice aspects to the hobby. We haven't even talked about the actions of the card companies which aren't the most above board and honest.


Is there anything positive, sure. You find some honest sellers, some genuine collectors who are eager to share and some just plain nice guys. The problem is the numbers and the fact that five nice interactions can be totally wiped out by one lousy deal.


I hope that you all have great transactions and pull that magical card that makes you go wow.


Happy collecting. ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2170-Greed-and-Deceit https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2167-Shipping-and-more-excuses Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:06:58 GMT Here's another gem from one of our favorite pet peeves. Shipping ripoffs.

I win 5 cards from a guy's auction and he charges me $6.25 CDN for shipping. He lives in Canada just like me and he uses a $1.80 stamp and throws two cards in T/L's and the rest loose in a cut up bubble mailer. I send him a message stating that I'm not happy with the lousy shipping when he is charging so much. He isn't even smart enough to know we are in Canada (although the postage used were CDN stamps not US - probably just more excuses). Here are the two replies I got from this guy plus our responses.

"Sorry if your un happy with the way I ship, but shipping to
US is very different, if I would have needed to use a
bigger package it would have doubled the cost, i try to be
reasonable on this site its not like ebay. if i make a
couple dollars on shipping customers shouldnt complain,
half the time they get cards for a quarter anyway. But
sorry again, but my shipping charges wont change. Thanks
for your purchase"

My reply - I'm in CANADA. I charge $3.70 to ship five cards auction style and they all come in sleeves, NEW T/Ls and a team bag plus bubble mailer. Mail is based on size and weight and whether you use a 4 x 6 or 6 x 10 bubble mailer doesn't matter it is still $1.80. Been doing this a long time and I'm pretty sure I have Canada Post down to an art by now. Ebay, Sportlots, Amazon, it makes no difference ripping people off on shipping is wrong and what they pay for cards even if it is a quarter is wrong too. Smart buyers shouldn't get punished by overpaying on shipping. PERIOD. Sorry but negative feedback will be left then.

His reply "You say you been doing this for awhile then you should
take into consideration that there's it takes time to
package and get cards ready, toploaders are not free
either, if all your cards were not in top loaders sorry
its because I ran out, it also cost gas to drive to the
post office, you got about 100 in bv worth of cards for
about 15.00 I dont see the problem, ive spent 6 and 7
dollars for shipping and new it only cost a couple bucks
to ship, ive never had anyone complain, you seen the cost
of shipping before you bid, this is not my fault thats
yours, leaving me bad feedback really doesnt make sense
if your happy with the cards, i try to get it removed
because My fee for shipping was stated before you bought
sorry you were not happy but im not giving my stuff away
for free, please never bid again."

My reply - You either don't sell a lot or you sell to a lot of idiots. Feedback is a transaction based response not a cards only one and the book value of the cards compared to what we won them for shouldn't matter. If you are going to charge premium shipping rates (which yours is compared to ours) than at least try to ship as such. Loose cards in a team bag is unacceptable. If you don't have the proper materials or think selling cards is a job and you need to be paid for your time, gas and such perhaps you should get out of it and stop ruining the hobby for honest sellers. You won't need to worry about us bidding again as we won't.

Now I didn't leave negative feedback (can't because no claim filed) for this guy but I did leave neutral feedback. This is the type of seller that eBay changed their shipping policy for and started charging fees to all of us on shipping because too many greedy people tried to circumvent low selling prices and charging stupid amounts for shipping. Those who charge a reasonable amount for shipping got screwed because of greed. PERIOD. END OF STORY
:mad2: ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2167-Shipping-and-more-excuses https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2165-Mailbag-of-Questions Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:53:08 GMT Boy oh boy since joining some of these online groups I am baffled by how some people are so messed up with how things work and function. Lots of questions, beliefs, falsehoods and lots of out and out... Boy oh boy since joining some of these online groups I am baffled by how some people are so messed up with how things work and function. Lots of questions, beliefs, falsehoods and lots of out and out misinformation.

First question that topped the charts was my thoughts on Upper Deck being the sole provider of NHL licensed cards. We addressed this question awhile ago when it was first announced but we can go through it again. First let me say that I don't believe that a monopoly in anything is good. Competition keeps people trying to do better. Who made the move to do this is up for debate but my money is on Upper Deck. The heat from Panini was starting to really cut into Upper Deck's wallet not to mention the losses UD was taking from lawsuits. Upper Deck needed to do this to survive. There product was getting worse and sales were declining. Having Upper Deck as the sole provider of NHL licensed hockey cards is one of the biggest mistakes the hobby has seen in a lot of years. You are now stuck with there product or nothing. Wholesale prices have escalated and lets be honest since they took over the products coming out have been less than stellar and resale prices of single cards for the most part have been flat. One of the saddest things the hobby has seen.


Next one up is Beckett pricing. If you think that eBay sales affect the prices you see in or on Beckett for the most part you are mistaken. There are far too many issues with using eBay for Beckett guide prices. That being said if you see a one of one sold on eBay then Beckett might take notice. For the most part Beckett uses its own 'in house' information for pricing. They control all of the formulas they use to figure pricing out and that allows them to be as accurate as they can.


Facebook hockey card groups and the various things they do. Well I addressed this briefly a day or two ago but I'll take the time now to be more specific. First I haven't been thrilled with the way most of these things are done as generally the 'price' is more than they could ever expect to sell the card for on eBay. Prices are set and spots are sold at a fraction for the chance to score a fifty dollar card for five bucks. The bottom line is that this card would sell for ten to fifteen bucks on eBay so rather than doing that they raffle it off and get fifty bucks or fifty percent more than eBay would have netted them. Most don't think that giving up five bucks for the chance to win is an issue but every loss adds up. There is also the payment thing that concerns me because if you win and don't get the card you can't go after them. It is putting a lot of faith in someone or something that can change names in a heartbeat. The other aspect of these groups as far as sales go is the fixed asking prices. There are a lot of cards being over valued or misrepresented. We use a service that tracks sales prices so we can see what the highest price was and what the last card sold for and seldom does it ever come close to the claims being made by some. There seems to be some very inventive pricing going on too.


This one was an eye opener. We have pre-sold boxes for many years and it is an accepted practice among sellers. There have been a few sellers pre-selling boxes that they never were going to get and that is a bad thing but to see someone pre-selling a single card is a bit of a stretch. To me this was done to pay for his cases that he couldn't afford to do otherwise. I really think that this type of thing is stepping on the wrong side of the ethical line not to mention those who bought these seriously overpriced cards. They are seriously in need of a reality check.

Happy collecting !


I'll be posting these comments on our blogs as well. ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2165-Mailbag-of-Questions https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2093-Back-On-The-Airwaves Thu, 26 Feb 2015 05:25:28 GMT Well it took some time and some soul searching to come back to blogging again :confused0024: We have been posting on our Facebook page but have have left it at that. Haven't posted anything here or on our Twitter since we closed the store. With the birth of our son a couple years ago and the closing of the store I was having some serious issues with how I felt :twitch: Hoping to get back to full speed. Posting some commentary to get going. ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/2093-Back-On-The-Airwaves https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1757-Store-Closing-and-some-random-thoughts Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:47:36 GMT Just wanted to let you know that we officially closed the Ajax store on Sunday, June 16th at 5:00. While this was a difficult day for us for several reasons we are looking forward to moving ahead.... Just wanted to let you know that we officially closed the Ajax store on Sunday, June 16th at 5:00. While this was a difficult day for us for several reasons we are looking forward to moving ahead. The period between June 17th and June 30th will be spent packing up and moving everything to our new location in Whitby. We will reopen on Tuesday, July 2nd and will be keeping the same business hours of operation, we will still accept interac debit cards and credit cards for payment and will continue our support of local Durham Region charities. Everything except the location will stay the same.

Our website www.frozenheroes.com is up and running so if you haven't seen it yet please take a look and register your own personal account. We will be offering FREE STUFF, giveaways and promos through the website and only those registered are eligible. Currently there is a pre-order promo for 13-14 UD Artifacts Hobby boxes ($102 a box) posted on the site which involves getting a chance to win a FREE Upper Deck Double Rookie Class Goal Light (MSRP $75). All website orders will receive FREE STUFF. We will have everything we carry posted on the website in time including single cards at up to 90% off the book price. Take advantage of our quantity purchasing and lot buying to get some really nice cards well below book value (2011-12 Black Diamond #250 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins RC BV $100 for $41.67 for example).
Please remember to wait for your online order to be verified so that your order can be picked and the proper shipping charges added if you need your order shipped. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask.

Finally, thanks to all of you for taking the time to come to Ajax and chat and support us and our charities. Your friendship and help with our charities is truly appreciated. Hopefully we will see you in the near future.

Posted on our Facebook page: Author: Michael Robinson This was truely a sad day for the industry! I would like to personally thank Doug and Angie for being the most honest and reputable people in the ENTIRE INDUSTRY. Though I will miss the drop in chats at frozen heroes in Ajax I wish Doug and Angie all the best in future successes! THANK YOU for reminding me of what the Hobby is all about!! FUN

Random thoughts....:confused0024:

.....did you really expect the powers that be at Panini to say that the new Rookie Anthology sucked ? The recent 'Market Analysis' post on the Panini blog was so biased that it failed to say that the product only sells on a box basis because nobody wants to pay $10-$12 for a lousy base pack of which boxes have 2 to 3. At $99 a box it is cheaper then SP Authentic at $118 a box but it is being outsold by SPA at a 3 to 1 ratio in our store.

....I am pleasantly surprised by some of the prices coming out on 13-14 Upper Deck hockey product :thumb:

....wish Upper Deck would get rid of the Diamond Dealer Program. It isn't worth the ink or paper it is printed on :frusty:

....13-14 Score Hockey may well go down as the biggest rip off product of the year. At almost double the price of last year, eliminating the buck a pack product for kids the same way Upper Deck did in 12-13 by killing Victory. Justifying the price increase by saying you are guaranteed to get an auto rather then a chance at one. Sure hope your box doesn't have a 5 buck auto in it because it cost you almost $30 :mad2: ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1757-Store-Closing-and-some-random-thoughts https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1739-The-Local-Card-Store-Question Wed, 15 May 2013 20:39:26 GMT Another one of those popular questions that gets asked of us but for some reason it came up several times this past week. Why have so many card shops closed over the years ? This has happened to... Another one of those popular questions that gets asked of us but for some reason it came up several times this past week. Why have so many card shops closed over the years ? This has happened to stores of all sizes over the years and the answer is simple. LACK OF LOYALTY and GREED.
With the intrusion of Ebay, Amazon and other websites the card buyer doesn't have to leave his home to buy what he wants at prices that may be cheaper then what the local card store is willing to do. With flea market vendors and other hacks selling cards without any regard for honesty or building relationships the card buyer can get cards and roll the dice as to whether they are getting a deal or not. This is really a disappointing chain of events because regular card collectors who would support a local store are vastly out numbered by those looking to buy cheap and sell high to make a quick buck or two.

The local card store was where you came to buy your packs and boxes to build your set. Then you came in with your checklist and your doubles and traded for the cards you were missing or bought them. Nowadays the card collector is a fickle crowd dominated by speculators buying rookies, jerseys, autos and so forth of their favourite players and not interested in base set collecting. Strike one for the local card shop.

Strike two was the flea market venues popping up all over and vendors reeling the fish in. For these 'sellers' it was like shooting fish in a barrel. People were knowingly going to flea markets and getting fleeced of their own free will. Now the local card store had competition for the collector's buck because the same thing the store was selling the flea market vendor could sell. The flea market vendor could use his ABC Construction vendor permit to buy the product without a store and without paying sales tax. Of course the flea market guy could sell it cheaper because he paid next to nothing to sell his stuff, he had company write offs for more stuff and he didn't claim the income from the flea market on his income tax anyway.

The final death blow or strike three for the card store owner was the internet and the various vehicles the card collector could buy from. From Ebay to Amazon and everything in between plus online card stores that only exist in the internet world the actual brick and mortar card store was done like dinner. Upper Deck tried to help the real card store owner with their 'Brick & Mortar' program but it has proven to be not worth the paper it is printed on. Our local flea markets have Upper Deck hobby product the same week it comes out as do we. For the record Panini has done nothing to help the real card stores with any seller protection.

The bottom line is the buyers have created the mess that the hobby is in by not supporting their local card store. If the store owner was trustworthy, decent and not greedy why would you go looking to buy elsewhere ? Of course these are the same people who wonder where the local card store went.

For the record I have been in this hobby for over 35 years and opened my first card store in 1990. In June we will be closing our existing card store for the exact reasons I have detailed above :(: ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1739-The-Local-Card-Store-Question https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1726-2013-14-SCORE-Hockey Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:20:49 GMT Well the S%&T will hit the fan and the I told you sos will start. All the bragging about a double rookie crop in 2013-14 thanks to the lockout/strike has claimed its first victim. Those who thought that things would go on as if nothing happened next season are being proven wrong. I just saw the pre-order prices for 2013-14 SCORE HOCKEY and to say I had to check the prices three times is not a lie. A 2012-13 hobby box with 36 packs which we sold for $28 this past year will now cost almost $60 !! This is a disgrace to card collectors everywhere and stinks much like the 2012-13 O-Pee-Chee hockey. When Upper Deck abandoned its VICTORY hockey product leaving base collectors with only SCORE hockey from Panini as a buck a pack product I thought this was a tactical mistake by Upper Deck. Now SCORE will rival O-Pee-Chee (if it comes out again) for price point and leave no buck a pack product in hockey. Simply put this is nothing but greed on behalf of the card companies to try to recover what they lost this past season and make us collectors fill their pockets. This hobby never ceases to amaze with the greedy lengths it will go too. Yes I am angry :mad2: ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1726-2013-14-SCORE-Hockey https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1705-Rookie-Card-or-not Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:58:10 GMT I got an email asking if this card was a rookie card or not as several are currently listed on websites for sale. This question has been asked before and I will repeat exactly what I said previously.... I got an email asking if this card was a rookie card or not as several are currently listed on websites for sale. This question has been asked before and I will repeat exactly what I said previously.

2012 Panini Father's Day Rookies #12 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

This card (along with the others from this 'set') is not a ROOKIE CARD. It is not recognized by Beckett as a RC because it doesn't come from a regular issued set. It doesn't matter that it is serial-numbered or not it still doesn't qualify as a rookie. In most cases sellers list the card as a rookie hoping to capitalize on a lack of buyer knowledge and getting more money. For the record this card books at $12. I know that this won't stop the questions and I don't mind answering them so keep them coming. ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1705-Rookie-Card-or-not https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1701-Website-Rip-Offs-and-Postage Fri, 01 Mar 2013 20:04:26 GMT Website Rip Offs has been a big pain in the butt for many sellers :frusty: Buyers who claim they didn't get their item and file a claim to get there money back :fighting0016: Most sites will give these so-called buyers their money back if you can't provide a tracking number :twitch: I don't know how many times I've lost money to this circumstance but it isn't something that you usually forget. Not all of these instances are scams but it is hard to believe when you look at it that certain delivery areas have more claims then others and ever notice that it usually isn't a cheap $2.00 card that you get screwed for :suspicious:

The first thing to look at is postage and protecting your sale with tracking or insurance. Unfortunately while US sellers are moaning about shipping costs with delivery confirmation to Canada of $7-$8, up here in Canada that cost is actually approx. $14 to a Canadian address and $16-$20 for items shipped to the States. This shipping cost nightmare has caused several sellers to change their thoughts on shipping to certain destinations. One website has US sellers quoting $99.99 to ship a single card to Canada because they don't want to sell to Canada :confused0024: Why not just quote the $8 rather then posting an obnoxious shipping rate ? This also applies to certain sellers on feebay who quote $15 to ship a single card to Canada.

As a rule when we see a seller quoting ridiculous shipping rates to Canada where we are we go and manually block them from buying from us. Money is money but we have principles and if you want to be stupid about shipping to Canada we aren't going to let you buy from us. There are several sellers on Sportlots that we used to buy from that we no longer can afford to because of the incredibly increased shipping rates. We were recently screwed by umjakulp (in Manitoba) on Sportlots for $25 because he filed a claim saying he didn't get his 100 card order :fighting0023: This forced us to re-evaluate our shipping charges and force all buyers (Canadian & US) who purchase cards from us that weigh over 500 grams in total (roughly over 65 cards) to pay for insured shipping. This is disappointing as we pride ourselves on having the best shipping rates around and the lowest card prices but to get beat at least once a week by some crook and having our charities screwed has finally taken its toll :mad2: and I've had enough of it. Our honest customers are now going to be paying for the scammers which isn't fair but necessary so that we don't keep losing money. We apologize for this and will continue to make sure that our good customers continue to get extra free stuff.

At this point we are investigating on possibly starting a website where we can post scammers info such as the site used, scammer id and possibly even addresses. Please post comments and let us know what you think. ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1701-Website-Rip-Offs-and-Postage https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1690-Horrible-Week-In-The-Hobby Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:41:02 GMT This has been an absolutely horrible week in the hobby for me. Between the big snow storm we got delaying the delivery of our Upper Deck NHCD packs, scams and rip off stories I am so angry :mad2: I... This has been an absolutely horrible week in the hobby for me. Between the big snow storm we got delaying the delivery of our Upper Deck NHCD packs, scams and rip off stories I am so angry :mad2: I could explode.

First we got an email saying that Upper Deck in an effort to discourage National Hockey Card Day items being delivered early (so crooks and cheats could sell them on ebay) the distributors weren't supposed to ship until Thursday for Friday delivery and Saturday giveaways. I voiced my concern that if something should happen to delay the shipment we wouldn't have them in time but that concern went for not and low and behold we get hit with the biggest snow storm in a decade and our packs don't arrive till the following Monday :frusty:. Now we spend Saturday apologizing to people who drove to our store but couldn't get packs. We gave away packs from last year, 10 card sets of Biography of a Season from last year and some Crosby NHCD bonus cards from last year as well to try and lessen the disappointment. Plus we took addresses down and will be shipping this year's NHCD stuff to everyone. BTW...we heard from people that this year's NHCD singles were being sold on ebay as early as Thursday :fighting0056:.

Now on to the scammer story which caught me off guard as the product came from DAC in the States. We ordered a Blaster Box of 2010-11 Upper Deck Series 2 for a customer who came in and picked it up. On top of paying duties on the item making the price higher then expected (shipped to us by UPS...big mistake as the item was never opened by Canada Customs but that is another story) the shrink wrap had NO Upper Deck logo on it. The contents yielded packs that had been obviously resealed, were missing cards and no inserts or young guns rookies. I gave the customer back his money but my first thought was that I had heard about this scam from Wal Mart and Zellers stores but did not think getting this product from DAC would be a problem. Even though DAC gave us our money back for the product we still lost money because of the shipping and customs costs that we paid :(:

Now for the rip offs and while there were a couple this week the worst one was from a local flea market hack. A guy comes in with a box of cards to sell and you say I will give you twenty-five dollars for it. He says no thanks it is worth more then that so you tell him to let you see what he has. You quickly grab six vintage o-pee-chee cards and tell him you will give him ten bucks for them knowing full well that they are worth a heck of a lot more and he takes it. The six cards in question included two Gordie Howe cards booking at two hundred and fifty bucks. You are a f%&king crook and should be shot at close range several times starting in the lower body area. Things like this are why this hobby has crapped out over the years and why I scratch my head in total amazement :fighting0016:

Anyway, this has been a tough week but we will struggle on trying to keep the hobby safe and honest despite the inconceivable number of con artists and crooks out there. ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1690-Horrible-Week-In-The-Hobby https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1684-Upper-Deck-National-Hockey-Card-Day-Saturday-February-9th Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:19:49 GMT Hi All, Just wanted to post a reminder that Upper Deck National Hockey Card Day is this Saturday, February 9th. This is an event we have supported over the years with FREE packs for all who visit.... Hi All,

Just wanted to post a reminder that Upper Deck National Hockey Card Day is this Saturday, February 9th. This is an event we have supported over the years with FREE packs for all who visit. Frozen Heroes will also be giving away FREE Biography of a Season ten card sets to collectors and giving away a few signed hockey pucks from our Toronto Maple Leafs friends.

Come out and see if us if you are local. More info can be found here:
Participating Stores: http://upperdeck.com/nhcd/nhcd-canada.html
Additional details on the event: http://upperdeckblog.com/2013/02/eve...day-in-canada/
ESPN interview where UD revealed who the autograph cards will be for this year’s promotion: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8926226

Enjoy the day :): ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1684-Upper-Deck-National-Hockey-Card-Day-Saturday-February-9th https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1649-State-of-the-Hockey-Card-Hobby Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:17:39 GMT The following is a post from the Panini blog site :confused0054:: *Panini America, the world’s largest sports and entertainment collectibles company, announced today an updated roster of NHL/NHLPA... The following is a post from the Panini blog site :confused0054::

Panini America, the world’s largest sports and entertainment collectibles company, announced today an updated roster of NHL/NHLPA trading card products for the remainder of the 2012-13 season, following the NHLPA’s decision to restrict 2012-13 Rookie Cards to those players that debuted between the 2012 All-Star Game and the conclusion of the 2012 Stanley Cup Finals.

The decision means that any rookies that debut during the 2012-13 season will have their Rookie Cards appear in 2013-14 NHL/NHLPA Panini America products along with rookies debuting during the 2013-14 season — setting up the category for a highly anticipated double rookie class.

My own opinion as posted on the Panini Blog Site is as follows: “setting up the category for a highly anticipated double rookie class” means basically killing the interest (or lack there of) in any remaining hockey products not to mention putting ‘rookie redemptions’ in a limbo status. What a way for the NHLPA to screw us a second time.

This has got to be the biggest case of kicking the crap out of the card store owner to happen in years. As if it isn't bad enough that 12-13 hockey product sucked and sold as such the relief we thought we would get from the lockout ending and Yakupov being on a card finally has gone up in a puff of smoke. Our business being 95% hockey generated has taken a huge hit but those at the NHL/NHLPA and the card companies don't give a crap. Who cares if the smaller stores fold we have the big guys who push most of our product, get perks and discounted pricing plus return privileges to carry us. What they say goes and they don't have to worry about going under because we give them anything they want. What a crock of S#&T !! Am I bitter ? You bet :mad2: I've been in this hobby for almost forty years and I thought I had seen it all but when the card companies start taking advice from those getting the most what should we expect. This is one of the darkest days for the hobby that I have ever seen :Cry:.

Lets pray that somehow the little guys and the real collectors get some relief :pray: ]]> frozenheroes https://www.sportscardforum.com/entries/1649-State-of-the-Hockey-Card-Hobby