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Thread: The Future of the Hobby
01-09-2013, 10:36 PM #11
Not just putting this name out there cause I'm a Bear fan lol but I think Urlacher will sustain good value. He also has the advantage of not having as many autos since it was still somewhat fresh in 2000.Hidden Content
Urlacher card count - 163
01-09-2013, 10:38 PM #12
01-09-2013, 10:55 PM #13
I think the hobby has already answered most of the op questions. Majority of cards hold little value except rookies and high end elite stars. Its already there. The hobby has already started to regress yet topps and panini keep flooding the market devaluing everything more and more. The future of the hobby is happening now. There are no new gimmicks to use. In 5 years cards will go back into bycicle spokes like they use to. Exceot now it will be shiny refractors. Jersey cards will be pulled apart to make an nfl jersey quilt. Some may laugh but I have seen this. The hobby will regress more and more. The companies will finally start cutting product lines. The product that is left will be half what it is now and twice as expensive. This needs to happen. Once it gets to this point prints will be worth more per print like they were in the late 90s to mid 2000s. This will slowly bring people back into the hobby and the cycle will start again.
01-09-2013, 11:40 PM #14
01-10-2013, 12:33 AM #15
01-10-2013, 12:53 AM #16
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Always looking to add to these team collections: Toronto Maple Leafs; Pittsburgh Steelers; Cincinnati Reds; Notre Dame; Team Sweden Hockey
01-10-2013, 10:16 AM #17
Overall value of cards will not hold with the massive dilution. If you are a specific die-hard collector (such as a team collector or player collector) then I guess value doesn't matter a whole lot. For selling purposes only the current "hot" rookies will be able to sell (its been that way for awhile) but even then that same rookie card you paid $500 for you probably wont event be able to get $250 for it unless he had some unbelievable year.
Personally I have stop buying wax. It is a lot of fun to bust but to me there is no point. There are so many memorabilia, auto, and low #ed cards these days that it really doesn't mean much to get one unless it is one of those "hot rookies". Also for memorabilia, these days all they are is event worn, so the player puts it on for a second then takes it off. Boom there you go the card company can say he wore it. I think it would be cool for a game used set to come out with game worn jerseys and the picture of the player wearing the exact jersey that the piece of GU came form. I think they did this a few years back with "Piece of the Game" and other sets.
Or how about #ed cards actually be a different card? Meaning a different picture other than the base card. I know they kind of do this with SP's but with a lot of base 1/1's (crazy that I can say that now) its just the same base card but with a 1/1 stamp on it. Make it truly 1/1 no one else has that card with that picture.
01-10-2013, 12:20 PM #18
There is already a cycle in place with 'Rookies' each and every year. Running backs create the most hysteria before fading into oblivion because of the short life span of the position. I will start in 2003 and name some running backs who have fizzled both in the hobby and there career.
2003 - Larry Johnson, had a couple nice seasons. His hobby was incredible in early 2006. Contenders sold for 420 at one time. You can not pick it up for 10 bucks.
Onterrio Smith, Domanick Davis, Justin Fargas
Willis Mcgahee - still plays and has had a nice career. Nonetheless, he holds little hobby value.
2004 - Kevin Jones, Julius Jones, Chris Perry. Tatum Bell
Steven Jackson - Topped 10,000 yards and has more left in the tank. Only 29 years old, nonetheless, his hobby is very low currently.
2005 - Frank Gore - nearing 10,000 yards but, hobby has been slumping for some time.
Sproles - fantastic player. holds the all time yards from scrimmage record. Cards are low.
benson, ronnie brown, and cadillac - All at one time were worth absurd levels. Now can be had for little to nothing. Also, Marion barber.
2006 - Maroney. Bush - Cards have decreased by 80% or more.
Jones Drew - steady hobby. he needs a few more good seasons. Deangelo williams - still has a little value. Lendale white isworth nothing.
2007 - Pretty solid in terms of Peterson being here. For how dominant Lynch is, his hobby is fairly low
2008 - Interesting class, Forte, Charles, Rice, CJ, Mcfadden, Jonathan Stewart, Mendenhall. All have seen decreases and could fade into oblivion in the future.
2009 - Lesean - has a little bit of value.
Beanie - little value. Knowshon - no value.
2010 - Jahvid Best, low value. Mathews - injury prone and cards have fallen.
Spiller - had a nice season but needs many more to sustain
2011 - Leshore, Ryan Williams - very low value. Ingram has dropped because of low production.
2012 - We see Doug Martin showing flashes. David Wilson had some nice highlights.
Trent only averaged 3.5 but his cards have held steady.
This could be the topic of another discussion but, I wanted to bring up the topic of Running Backs and there ever decreasing values. At times, they will decrease over time even when they had very successful careers. It seems to be a position that people collect at the moment, not in the long term.
01-10-2013, 12:24 PM #19
01-10-2013, 02:26 PM #20
eliteco, I was thinking the same thing about runningbacks, look at jamal lewis for example he had a 2,000 yard season and a solid career but you can pick his contenders up for $10 on ebay.