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  1. #1

    New USPS Maximums Regarding Non-Machineable Or Large Envelope

    Hi everyone:

    Today was the day of the experiment. Here is what I took to the USPS in Oregon for shipment to our friend Jimmy Budny in T.O

    1. One Size 0 (Zero) Bubble Envelope
    2. 9 cards Total, one of them a slightly thicker Certified Platinum Red from 1997.
    3. Two Top-Loaders - 7 cards in between
    4. 6 Soft Sleeves - The cards in between - 2 per soft sleeve
    5. One Team Bag
    6. Masking Tape to secure everything safely inside



    Total Package Weight: 1.70 ounces, still safely under 2.0 ounces.


    Charges: 1st Class International Envelope - $1.10. Non-Machineable Surcharge - .20 Cents
    Total: $1.30 USD





    TSN Turning Point

    This is Paramount. The Customs Form is the linch-pin. As soon as you use a Customs Form, your Bubble Envelope automatically becomes a Package, not a Letter. Here is why so many of you are being charged the $6.55 - $7.25.


    DO NOT USE A CUSTOMS FORM !! When you do so, your letter becomes a package and Voila (Bob's Your Uncle) your $1.30 to Canada is now over $7.00.


    Conclusion:

    This mail to Toronto today, DID NOT go via Large Envelope, it went First Class International - Non Machineable. Now, if your local P.O. in the USA charges you large envelope, this package I sent today is about $2.75.

    If you use a bubble, no customs form, and state - First Class International Letter - Non-Machineable - your total becomes $1.30


    Weights:

    I just sent 9 cards, 2 top-loaders, weight at 1.7 ounces which is UNDER the magic number of 2 ounces. Based on the 2 ounce maximum, if you keep the Top-Loaders to 2 overall, you can comfortably ship 11-12 regular thickness cards to Canada for $1.30. I still had .30 ounce left of wiggle-room today in shipping 9 cards.

    If you are shipping those Fat Cup Cards that are already triple and quadruple thickness, then you rare going to have to experiment with the weight, but just keep in mind that the magic number is 2 ounces total.


    Time Saved

    The overall average Time Saved when you DON'T use a Custom's Form is anywhere from 8-12 days. My cards are reaching Toronto (2,646 miles) in 5 days, Montreal (3,000 miles) in 6 days and the Maritimes in 7 days - 3,500 miles.


    Hope this helps everyone.

    Cheers!

    Tim
    Last edited by centrehice; 02-11-2013 at 07:35 PM.

  2. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallinator View Post
    I use the "large envelope" calculations at the Automated Postal Center to determine a base amount of postage, then I add 30 cents to it (an arbitrary amount) and buy a stamp of that denomination. I don't try to go to the counter and request "large envelope" or anything else, as they will then want to send it as a package. Again, the *only* way I have been able to send these out cheaply is by avoiding the clerks and by also attaching a customs form to anything that is not a PWE.
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    I do this is as well though i just had a large envelope returned to me as it was deemed a package even though it was under 2 ounces. The most ridiculous part though was it took 7 mailing days to get the pkg returned to me.
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  3. #72
    whoop whoop, just sent out 2 #000 size bubble mailers as large envolopes for only 2.22 each.

    Yesterday i went to my post office and calmly asked the lady about shipping those mailers under 2 oz. she said she couldnt do it because it couldnt fit in the smallest mail slot. She told me to try fed-x or UPS.

    I didnt go to fed-x or UPS but i did come back and get more information from this site. So this morning i went down there, asked them to send it as a large envelope and they did. Best thing is, there were 3 of them around and i explained everything to them, so all of them are on board on how i want my packages shipped, and when the lady asked if i tried fed-x or UPS i said no, they thanked me for staying with the post office and she gave me a jolly rancher :)

    Sometimes a little explanation and a calm attitude go along way.

  4. #73
    sorry im late to the party but if we're using like stamps.com we cannot ship out large envelopes over 2 oz internationally?

  5. #74
    Finally...I got it today. 1.7 oz bubble mailer #0, had 1 jersey card, 5 or so base cards on either side of the top loader. team bag to keep them together. I took it in, asked for 1st class international large envelope. Said sure...what is in it? I said a letter and some photos in a protective sleeve. She said OK, $2.25. No customs form. Hope it gets to its destination!

  6. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by dmaksymyshyn View Post
    Finally...I got it today. 1.7 oz bubble mailer #0, had 1 jersey card, 5 or so base cards on either side of the top loader. team bag to keep them together. I took it in, asked for 1st class international large envelope. Said sure...what is in it? I said a letter and some photos in a protective sleeve. She said OK, $2.25. No customs form. Hope it gets to its destination!
    Beauty! Yeah, hopefully the sorting facility won't kick it back to you, but at least you made it past the first hurdle!
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  7. #76
    After two trips to two different locations that failed (despite talking to the clerks about what has been pointed out numerous times already), I've avoided the PO and clerks altogether since then - I bought a sheet of the new 1.10 international stamps and I've been sending out lower-end cards either in a well protected PWE or in a bubblemailer as a intl large envelope. So far none have come back and all have made it to where they needed to go (both Canada and Europe) with no issues about damage (based on feedback rec). I sent out I believe around 5-6 packages that way, dropped off in different locations around where I live and work.

    So I believe that will be my plan going forward (for the lower-end items or items under the weight limit).

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