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    Is Obamacare intended to force people into government assistance?

    hey guys -

    no article, just sharing my own experience. I purchase my own insurance because my employer doesn't provide any (only 3 full time employees). I carry blue cross for myself, my wife, and my daughter, (and son on the way). We have elected to purchase insurance that does not cover pregnancy because it runs roughly 400-500 more a month. As such, we are paying for this pregnancy out of pocket because it will cost less than 15 months worth of increased insurance rates. Once obamacare hits next year, all blue cross policies will disappear and we will have to choose a new one. Unfortunately, these new policies are required to carry prescription plans and pregnancy. Therefore, even though we will be done having children, we are going to be forced to pay hundreds more a month in insurance costs to have an insurance that provides a service we don't want or need.
    But fear not, if we are unable to pay the new insurance costs, we easily qualify for government assistance in the form of federal subsidies. So we are forcing insurance companies to charge hundreds more while at the same time offering free federal subsidies. How is this not, to some degree, forcing people who otherwise would not need or want federal assistance, into accepting just that?

    Now I do ask a favor of the boards. I know I am typically anti-obama so it will be easy for some to dismiss this as just a rant against him. However, I can genuinely say I would have this issue regardless of who wrote the law or who passed it. So if you will, please deal with my topic and not just assume I am bashing obama. Because for me, this is much bigger than Obama. I could care less who passed this law. I take pride in not needing federal assistance and being able to provide for my family without it. It isn't always easy but we make it work. This new law feels like an attempt to trap the middle class income group who are above needing assistance but not so well off that this won't effect them. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensbergcollector View Post
    Also, if my insurance is going up, for things I don't need and won't use, how can I say "I'd focus on what the government is finally doing right for you?" What are they finally doing right for me?
    I'm GLAD there is a safeguard there so you won't go bankrupt. As for the quoted part I thought you said in the OP that subsidies meant your insurance would be less...so the bottom line lower insurance cost is what I was saying they are doing right for you. Maybe I misread. Regardless I don't see the subsidies as "government assistance"- I think of it more as an investment in the people. Companies get tax breaks for investing in a big new project that creates jobs, you get a subsidy for investing in a new model of healthcare that helps makes the country healthier.
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    Publications?

    Are you serious. Have you ever been outside the USA? Go look at other countries Public Health models. Lol. Stop defending and start coping.

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    Healthy People 20/20, The National Health institute, and the CDC.

    also telehealth is common for most hospitals, minute clinics, and your family doctor.

    and also why would you think you should not have to read? who do you think creates publications?

    my wife is a 4th generation nurse who is working on her masters, so I am quite aware of health in the United states.

    the issue is you want the answers handed to you at your convenience.

    But I do think there needs to be more advocacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrewsbury View Post
    Healthy People 20/20, The National Health institute, and the CDC.

    also telehealth is common for most hospitals, minute clinics, and your family doctor.

    and also why would you think you should not have to read? who do you think creates publications?

    my wife is a 4th generation nurse who is working on her masters, so I am quite aware of health in the United states.

    the issue is you want the answers handed to you at your convenience.

    But I do think there needs to be more advocacy.

    I am married to Nurse with her Masters degree, she is a woman's health care Certified Nurse Practitioner, she is also a certified Nurse Midwife, and works for Planned Parenthood as a Woman's Health Care Practitioner.

    If not for organizations like Planned Parenthood, there would be no communal Healthcare for women, period. Public Health Policy is not practicing Public Health. You need to have Public Health offices in the USA whereby a person can drop in an have everything taken care of. You have not had this since the early 70's.

    The USA has wonderful Public Health Policy throught the CDC, but they have little hands-on Public Health available to those that need it. Should there be a serious outbreak of anything in the USA the poor would die immediately because Public Health is dependent upon Family Practice Doctors that know little about communicable disease.

    85% of all Family Physicians do not take on new patients. They are supposedly the one's responsible for Public Health. Many cannot even diagnose strep-throat.

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    my goodness, now there are two thins we have in common, something must be wrong somewhere!

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