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    Confederate History Month: Celebrating Racists, Traitors And Slavers

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    So you think the entire war was about slavery?

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    wickabee, it depends how you spin it. but when it comes down to it, slavery fueled the war. Slave ownership in new states and terrotories, such as Texas, was a hot topic.
    Lincoln tried to make it about the constitutional rights of secession but the reason the first state left was Lincoln won the presidential election and the south feared he would end slavery. In lincolns 1 st inaugural he speaks of constitutional rights, but by the second one, things changed;

    One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it.

    my favorite quotes from it are;

    Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."


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    Yes, it fuelled the war for certain, but it wasn't the entire war.
    And Lincoln ended slavery, for blacks in rebel states, as a measure of cutting down the confederate army.

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    Hey guess what slavery ended a long time ago.

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    Hey guess what slavery ended a long time ago.


    Agreed, however I'm still not understanding why the confederate side is being treated like heroes for betraying their country and why he have a confederate history month and a confederate memorial day.

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    veggie, never knew we had them, i don't like the idea either

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    veggie, never knew we had them, i don't like the idea either

    Yeah I never knew of confederate memorial day until I moved to Georgia. I grew up in the DC area and we didn't play that. Most southern states still celebrate confederate memorial day.

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    maybe us northerners should help out? we could reenact Sherman's March for them!

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    maybe us northerners should help out? we could reenact Sherman's March for them!

    Just don't do it in Atlanta. Do it in South Carolina instead. That place could sure use some General Sherman treatment if you know what I mean.

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