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    SCF's NHL Hall of Fame - Rejection Committee!!!

    This idea is NOT an original. This was something done as a bit piece on wgr550 in Buffalo several years back.

    Sample (note - will download audio as mp3) - http://www.gregbcomedy.com/yahoo_sit..._.97103158.mp3

    Anyhow - I think with Guy Carbonneau going into over JR or Mogilny is ... well... wrong. Sorry Hab fans. So with that said, I want to conduct a fun exercise - lets THROW people out of the NHL Hall of Fame!!


    How is this going to work?

    Below will be a list of the Players inducted into the HHOF. You can chose 1 player per day and kick them out of the HOF. What I would like to do is come out with 1 team (4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D and 2 G) that would be the SCF HOF Team.

    You must give a reason for the elimination from the Hockey Hall of Fame. You might face ridicule (within reason - don't go overboard) for your selection, but once you make the selection, that player is GONE, no exceptions.

    Lets start!

    My selection for Removal on 22 July is Guy Carbonneau. My reasons are

    1) He's a member of the 1999 Dallas Stars
    2) He's in and JR and Mogilny are not??

    Good bye Carbo!


    Full list List from Wikipedia (sorted by position/name)

    Adam Oates C
    Bernie Federko C - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on July 26
    Bill Cowley C - Eliminated by @TheLastOlympian07 on 8-17-2019
    Billy McGimsie C - Eliminated by @TheLastOlympian07 on 8-17-2019
    Bobby Clarke C
    Bryan Trottier C
    Buddy O'Connor[A] C - Elminated by @jsokol1626 on 8/22/2019

    Clint Smith[A] C - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on July 28
    Cooney Weiland C Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on Aug 21
    Dale Hawerchuk C
    Dan Bain C - Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-15-2019
    Darryl Sittler C
    Dave Keon C
    Denis Savard C eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-12-2019
    Dick Irvin C Eliminated by Scott on Aug 21
    Doug Gilmour C
    Duke Keats C - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on July 29
    Edgar Laprade[A] C
    Elmer Lach C
    Eric Lindros C - eliminated by @qualum23 on July 22 2019
    Frank Boucher C
    Frank Foyston C - eliminated by @creasecollector on 8/8/2019
    Frank Fredrickson C - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-19-2019
    Frank Nighbor C
    Gilbert Perreault C - Eliminated by scottkoz20 on July 22 2019
    Guy Carbonneau C - Eliminated by scottkoz20 on July 22 2019
    Harry E. Watson C
    C
    Henri Richard C - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on July 26
    Howie Morenz C
    Igor Larionov C
    Jack Adams C - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8/12/2019
    Jacques Lemaire C - Elminated by @jsokol1626 on 8/22/2019
    Jean Bliveau[ * ] C
    Jean Ratelle C
    Joe Malone C
    Joe Nieuwendyk C - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on July 30
    Joe Primeau C - Eliminated by Scott on Aug 21
    Joe Sakic C
    Marcel Dionne C
    Mario Lemieux[ * ] C
    Mark Messier C
    Marty Barry C - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on Aug 2
    Marty Walsh C
    Mats Sundin C - Eliminated by @mingus_md on Aug 4
    Max Bentley C - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8/12/2019
    Mike Modano C - Eliminated by @Savard18 on 8-14-2019
    Milt Schmidt C
    Nels Stewart C
    Norm Ullman C
    Oliver Seibert C - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on July 30
    Pat LaFontaine C
    Peter Forsberg C
    Peter Stastny C
    Phil Esposito C
    Ron Francis C
    Sergei Fedorov C
    Stan Mikita C
    Steve Yzerman C
    Syl Apps C - Eliminated by @creasecollector on 8-18-2019
    Ted Kennedy C
    Tommy Dunderdale C - Eliminated by @creasecollector on 8-18-2019
    Vclav Nedomansk C Eliminated by @SenatorCollector on July 24 2019
    Wayne Gretzky[ * ] C
    Billy Burch CD
    Ebbie Goodfellow CD - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-19-2019
    Jack Marshall CD
    Neil Colville CD
    Red Kelly[ * ] CD
    Reg Noble CDLW - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-16-2019
    Cyclone Taylor CDR
    Hooley Smith CDRW
    Alex Delvecchio CLW
    Bob Pulford CLW
    Lynn Patrick CLW
    Rusty Crawford CLW - Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-17-2019
    Sid Abel CLW eliminated by @creasecollector on 8-10-2019
    Jack Walker CLWR - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-16-2019
    Ernie Russell CR
    Frank McGee CR eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/7/2019
    Harry Trihey CR
    Mickey MacKay CR - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on July 24 2019
    Russell Bowie CR
    Tommy Smith CRLW
    Blair Russel CRW - Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-15-2019

    Al MacInnis D
    Allan Stanley D - elminated by @mingus_md on 8/9/2019
    Art Coulter D
    Art Ross D
    Babe Pratt D
    Bill Gadsby D
    Bill Quackenbush D - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on July 31
    Black Jack Stewart D - Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-17-2019
    Bobby Orr[ * ] D
    Brje Salming D
    Brad Park D
    Brian Leetch D - Elminated by @30ranfordfan on 8-22-2019
    Buck Boucher D
    Bullet Joe Simpson D - eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8/8/2019
    Ching Johnson D
    Chris Chelios D
    Chris Pronger D
    Denis Potvin D
    Dickie Boon D
    Doug Harvey D
    Earl Seibert D - eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8/8/2019
    Eddie Shore D
    mile Bouchard D
    Fernie Flaman[A] D
    George McNamara D - Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-19-2019
    George Richardson D - Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-19-2019

    Graham Drinkwater D - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on July 29
    Guy Lapointe D
    Hap Day D
    Harry Cameron D
    Harry Howell D
    Harvey Pulford D
    Herb Gardiner D
    Hod Stuart D
    Jack Ruttan D - eliminated by @jsokol1626 on July 27
    Jacques Laperrire D
    Joe Hall D
    Ken Reardon D
    King Clancy D
    Larry Murphy D
    Larry Robinson D
    Leo Boivin D
    Lionel Conacher[A] D
    Marcel Pronovost D
    Mark Howe D
    Mike Grant D eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-11-2019
    Moose Johnson D eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-10-2019
    Nicklas Lidstrm D
    Paul Coffey D
    Phat Wilson D - Eliminated by scottkoz20 on Aug 6
    Phil Housley D
    Pierre Pilote D
    Ray Bourque D
    Red Dutton D
    Red Horner D
    Rob Blake D
    Rod Langway D Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8/7/2019
    Scott Niedermayer D
    Scott Stevens D
    Serge Savard D eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-12-2019
    Sergei Zubov D Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8/7/2019
    Sprague Cleghorn D - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-20-2019
    Sylvio Mantha D - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-20-2019
    Tim Horton D - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8-22-2019
    Tom Johnson D eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-10-2019
    Viacheslav Fetisov D
    Lester Patrick DGR
    Babe Siebert DLW
    Eddie Gerard DLW eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/7/2019
    Jack Laviolette DLW
    Moose Goheen DLW
    Syd Howe DLW
    Newsy Lalonde DR
    Silas Griffis DR eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-10-2019
    Didier Pitre DRRW eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-10-2019
    Barney Stanley DRW - elminated by @mingus_md on 8/9/2019
    Dit Clapper[ * ] DRW

    Arthur Farrell F - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/23/2019
    Fred Scanlan F - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/23/2019
    Hobey Baker F - Eliminated (in Memorial of) by @jsokol1626 on July 25
    Shorty Green F - Elimianted by @30ranfordfan on 8-21-2019
    Tom Hooper F - Eliminated by @creasecollector on 8-15-2019


    Dominik Haek G
    Ed Belfour G
    George Hainsworth G
    Glenn Hall G
    Gump Worsley G
    Harry Lumley G
    Tony Esposito G
    Turk Broda G
    Terry Sawchuk[ * ] G
    Jacques Plante G
    Ken Dryden G
    Martin Brodeur G
    Patrick Roy G

    Roy Worters G - Eliminated by @creasecollector on 8-20-2019
    Johnny Bower G - Eliminated by @creasecollector on 8-20-2019
    Billy Smith G - Eliminated by @creasecollector on 8-15-2019
    Alec Connell G eliminated by @creasecollector on 8-10-2019
    Bernie Parent G Eliminated by @creasecollector on 8/12/2019
    Bill Durnan G Eliminated by @creasecollector on 8/12/2019
    Bouse Hutton G - eliminated by @creasecollector on 8/8/2019
    Charlie Gardiner G - eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8/9/2019
    Chuck Rayner G - Eliminated by @SenatorCollector on July 25
    Clint Benedict G - eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/9/2019
    Eddie Giacomin G Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8/8/2019
    Frank Brimsek G - eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/12/2019
    Georges Vzina G - eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/12/2019
    Gerry Cheevers G - Eliminated by @creasecollector on July 28
    Grant Fuhr G - Eliminated by scottkoz20 on July 24 2019
    Hap Holmes G Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8/8/2019
    Hughie Lehman G eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8/7/2019
    Paddy Moran G - Eliminated by scottkoz20 on July 23 2019
    Riley Hern G eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8/7/2019
    Rogie Vachon G Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on July 23 2019
    Tiny Thompson G - eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/9/2019
    Vladislav Tretiak G - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on July 25
    Rat Westwick GR - eliminated by @30ranfordfan on Aug 8
    Percy LeSueur GRW - eliminated by @30ranfordfan on Aug 8
    Alexander Yakushev LW - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on Aug 2
    Bert Olmstead LW - Eliminated by @mingus_md on Aug 6
    Bob Gainey LW Eliminated by scottkoz20 on July 25 2019

    Ace Bailey LW
    Aurle Joliat LW
    Bill Barber LW
    Bobby Hull LW
    Brendan Shanahan LW
    Bun Cook[A] LW
    Busher Jackson LW
    Cy Denneny LW
    Dickie Moore LW
    Doug Bentley LW
    Frank Mahovlich LW
    George Hay LW - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-17-2019
    Gordon Roberts LW
    Harry P. Watson[A] LW
    Herbie Lewis[A] LW - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-17-2019
    Jimmy Gardner LW
    Johnny Bucyk LW
    Luc Robitaille LW
    Roy Conacher[A] LW
    Sweeney Schriner LW
    Ted Lindsay[ * ] LW
    Toe Blake LW
    Valeri Kharlamov LW
    Tommy Phillips LWRW

    Clark Gillies LW Eliminated by @qualum23 on July 23 2019
    Dave Andreychuk LW Elminated by @ravens_creed on July 24 2019
    Dick Duff LW - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on July 22 2019
    Michel Goulet LW - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on July 24 2019
    Paul Kariya LW - Eliminated by @zunato on July 23, 2019
    Steve Shutt LW - eliminated by @qualum23 on July 27
    Woody Dumart[A] LW - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on Aug 1



    Andy Bathgate RW
    Babe Dye RW
    Bernie Geoffrion RW
    Bill Cook RW
    Bobby Bauer[A] RW
    Brett Hull RW
    Bryan Hextall RW
    Charlie Conacher RW
    George Armstrong RW
    Gordie Howe[ * ] RW
    Guy Lafleur RW
    Jari Kurri RW
    Lanny McDonald RW
    Maurice Richard[ * ] RW
    Mike Bossy RW
    Pavel Bure RW
    Rod Gilbert RW
    Teemu Selnne RW
    Yvan Cournoyer RW

    Bruce Stuart R - eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8-16-2019
    Frank Rankin R - eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8-16-2019
    Frederick Whitcroft R - eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8-21-2019
    Steamer Maxwell R - eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-9-2019
    Alf Smith RW - Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-18-2019
    Allan Davidson RW - Eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-18-2019
    Gordie Drillon RW - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-14-2019
    Harry Hyland RW - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-14-2019
    Harry Oliver RW - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-13-2019
    Jack Darragh RW - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-13-2019
    Punch Broadbent RW - Eliminated by @jsokol1626 on 8-15-2019
    Bill Mosienko RW - Eliminated by @qualum23 on July 25
    Billy Gilmour RW eliminated by @mingus_md on 8-11-2019
    Cam Neely RW - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on July 23 2019
    Dino Ciccarelli RW - Eliminated by @SenatorCollector on July 23 2019
    Glenn Anderson RW - Eliminated by @Iheartjacquie on 8/7/2019
    Joe Mullen RW - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on July 28
    Mark Recchi RW - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/13/2019
    Martin St. Louis RW - Eliminated by @30ranfordfan on 8/13/2019
    Mike Gartner RW - Eliminated by @mingus_md on Aug 5
    Sergei Makarov RW - Eliminated by @qualum23 on July 24 2019


    Angela James C
    Geraldine Heaney D
    Danielle Goyette F
    Jayna Hefford RW
    Cammi Granato C
    Hayley Wickenheiser
    Angela Ruggiero D
    Group consensus that they would not be included.

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    I suggest eliminating Eric Lindros (C)

    Reasons:
    123rd on all time career goal list - sandwiched between Rick Kehoe(124th) and Dany Heatley (122nd) - both players could be argued were just as good as Eric Lindros in their prime
    Never played all 82 games of the season
    1x Hart Trophy Winner
    1x Pearson Award Winner
    How is he in the hall of fame, but guys like Rick Kehoe and Bernie Nicholls are not?

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    My first removal is EASY:

    Dick Duff.

    He retired at the end of the 1971-72 season. He a had long career, and was part of some great teams (won the Stanley Cup 6 times). He was first eligible for election to the HOF in 1975, but was elected in 2006.

    Reason #1: In the 30 years between his eligibility, and his eventual election, his stats didn't improve.
    Reason #2: Stats. He scored only 283 goals, 572 points, in 1030 games. That pales in comparison to deserving HOFers from the same era
    Reason #3: Since I can only assume volume of championships is what got him in, I'll point out that he was not one of the top 5 players on ANY of the championship teams he played on, and I could even argue against him being a top 10 on those teams.

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    I would remove Dino Ciccarelli. Sure, he averaged almost a point per game, but he never won anything. Granted, he played 19 seasons, but again, most of his 1200 points came like Dave Andreychuk's, but Andy won a cup!

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    Ok - My elimination for July 23 is going to be Paddy Moran

    Why? Well, from his HHOF profile page it states "He was a clutch goalie and in the big games was hard to beat."

    but his overall stats (in a developing sport), especially his Goals against was over 4 for his career.


    sorry, but he has to go.

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    My elimination for July 23rd is going to be Clark Gillies.

    - Never scored 40 goals.
    -Highest point total 91 (1978-79)
    -Very solid power forward - but not too many power forwards are in the HHOF.
    - In my opinion, you put Dave Andreychuk on the Islanders in the early 80's, they win just as many Stanley Cups.

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    Day #2!

    This selection is an easy one for me: Cam Neely.

    Never won anything. Was a really good player on some really good Bruins teams, but he was never even a First Team All-Star. Never led the league in anything, and his career totals pale in comparison to most HOFers. Cut short due to injury? Yes, for sure that happened. If he'd been able to maintain how good he was mid-career, into a full career, I wouldn't be posting this.

    Not a hall of fammer.

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    Rogie Vachon His win total was a product of longevity, 1/4th of his career shutouts came in a single season. Career GAA above 3.0, Save % <.900. Early success can be attributed largely to his 6 seasons playing for a dominant Habs team. His name is rarely included as one of the best goalies of the post expansion era.

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    Paul Kariya

    No Cups, only 2 Lady Bing awards
    Averaged just under 27 goals per season (402 goals in 15 seasons)
    soon to be not even top 100 in goals

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    Sorry, but aside from defecting from the Czech Republic, what is Vaclav Nedomansky in the Hall for? 6 seasons in the NHL, playing for 3 different teams. 122 goals in 421 games, with a -92 should not get you in!

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