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    Congrats to the new Hall of Famers!

    Marvin Miller and Ted Simmons
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    I think Miller should be a shoo in but no sold on Ted Simmons addition.

    Congrats to both for being inducted.

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    Simmons was one of the best catchers in the 70's. Well deserved and much too late. Why do people not think he is HOF material?

    Bench had 2,048 hits for a . 267 career batting average with 1,376 RBI.

    Simmons had 2,472 hits for a . 285 career batting average with 1,389 RBI.
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    Simmons was one of the best catchers in the 70's. Well deserved and much too late. Why do people not think he is HOF material?

    Bench had 2,048 hits for a . 267 career batting average with 1,376 RBI.

    Simmons had 2,472 hits for a . 285 career batting average with 1,389 RBI.

    Too me it the best of the best. You mention Bench and he has so many awards

    14× All-Star (1968–1980, 1983)
    2× World Series champion (1975, 1976)
    2× NL MVP (1970, 1972)
    World Series MVP (1976)
    NL Rookie of the Year (1968)
    10× Gold Glove Award (1968–1977)
    2× NL home run leader (1970, 1972)
    3× NL RBI leader (1970, 1972, 1974)

    What does Simmons have?

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    harold baines getting in , opens the hall to so many players.

    Simmons should be in.

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    While I don't question the pick of Marvin Miller I do question why it had to be after the guy died. I mean he was eligible for a very long time and he died when he was like 95 or something. Couldn't they have done this while he was alive? The same thing happened with Ron Santo and it is basically pointless electing a guy to the HOF after they die when you string them along for years and even decades while they are living. They died believing they weren't in the HOF so what's the point basically in doing it now? He didn't die suddenly or young as he was an elderly old man.
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    Too me it the best of the best. You mention Bench and he has so many awards

    14× All-Star (1968–1980, 1983)
    2× World Series champion (1975, 1976)
    2× NL MVP (1970, 1972)
    World Series MVP (1976)
    NL Rookie of the Year (1968)
    10× Gold Glove Award (1968–1977)
    2× NL home run leader (1970, 1972)
    3× NL RBI leader (1970, 1972, 1974)

    What does Simmons have?

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    4 of the top 10 catchers of all time had careers that overlapped almost exactly: Bench (1st), Carter (2nd), Fisk (4th), and Simmons (9th). 3 of the 4, Bench, Carter, and Simmons, spent the bulk of their careers in the National League together.

    It's hard to win any of those accolades, even as the 9th best catcher ever, when the 1st and 2nd best catchers ever are your National League contemporaries and competing with you for awards that are position based. Even so Simmons managed 8 All Star nods, a Silver Slugger (Award started in 1980 or he and Bench would have likely fought over it year after year), and routinely got MVP votes. He was the all time leader as a catcher in hits and doubles when he retired (passed by Ivan Rodriguez and he's still 2nd all time in both) and he's still has the 2nd most RBIs by a catcher ever, behind Berra and ahead of Bench. He's still the all time leader in Intentional Walks as a catcher.

    The era he played in is the reason he fell off the ballot right away. If his career had started 20 years earlier or 20 years later he would have been the best or 2nd best catcher of his era and go into the Hall of Fame easily. Instead he looks "just good" because his contermporaries were 3 of the 4 best catchers ever.
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    agree with the previous post

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