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    Somebody as BVG must not like me....

    So I bought this Nice Raw Lafleur RC, actually ended up in a bidding war over it, paid over Book value for it, had it in my head that it was a solid 7 or 8, sent it to BVG for grading and to my horror it came back as a 5!!!



    I feel robbed!

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    The centering is a tad off but everything else looks tight from where I sit. Weak rating but a sweet card.

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    A centering 80/20 will never fetch more then ex-mt. I guess you had 3 or more issue and that got it down to ex. But the centering should have been easy to spot. Take some time to read the description in beckett mag. to get 7 or more you need to start with a better centering.

    Still a nice card but grading is tough and not easy to learn.
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    Grading is a bunch of bogus to me lol

    Don't let the Grading get you down, that's a great card!
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    I just calculated on the side and it more 70/30, wondering if you have some gum stain since under the chin there seem to be a issue.

    I know I don't grade card, find this to obejective and if you have the tough guy then good luck. So I may buy a graded card but don't grade mine.

    It still a great card of Lafleur and wish I had a nice one like that.
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    That's a great card. Too bad about the grade though.

    You should send it back, and have it personalized.

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  9. #8
    As Luc said the centering took it down. Do you have a scan of the back by chance. A nice looking card as all mentioned and one reason I don't grade cards. I don't like being bummed out LOL.

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    As Luc said the centering took it down. Do you have a scan of the back by chance. A nice looking card as all mentioned and one reason I don't grade cards. I don't like being bummed out LOL.

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    Seems to me that card grading is rather arbitrary. One grader could give one score while another rates differently. Maybe you should break this card out of the case, send it back and see if you get a different result.

    When they return your card, do they provide reasons for grading the way they do? I would think they should include a grading report that says something like: Centering off - corner damage - etc...

    As it is now, you have no way of knowing why they gave the grade they did. Obviously the centering is off, but we are all guessing as to how much that affected the grade, or what else could be wrong.

    Ask the graders to include a grading report. If they won't do it, tell them you'll go someplace else.
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