Ron Paul says that the government response to Boston was scarier than the bombing.

[mrveggieman]

I honestly don't see this happening. If it did then that would be an issue for sure. I'd be curious if anyone was doing something else illegal when they searched homes.

Dosen't matter. You could be in the house making love to your woman and the police could decide to run up in your house to get a peep show. I don't want the police running up in my house for any reason unless I call them over there.

[mrveggieman]

There are numerous places in States, many of them rural that want to see your accompanying ID when using a credit card.

When I encounter this, I replace the merchandise and leave the establishment, after letting them know that they just lost needed revenue as well as a customer. I was once asked for ID when retuning something to Safeway.

This is true. Most people do not know that per the merchant's agreement with visa and mastercard they cannot demand that you show an ID in order to use a credit/debit card nor can they require that you make a minumum purchase with your credit/debit card. The next time that happens file a complaint against them with you financial institution or with visa/mastercard directly.

[centrehice]

I forgot to add, that when returning the merchandise to safeway, It had been paid for in cash.

As early as 2006 some merchants were actually asking for Social Security Numbers when you made a purchase at retail. That offensive practice has finally fallen by the wayside, as it's nobody's business what your Social Security Number is.

[Star_Cards]

Dosen't matter. You could be in the house making love to your woman and the police could decide to run up in your house to get a peep show. I don't want the police running up in my house for any reason unless I call them over there.

If there is a dangerous bomber that is carrying explosives and just had a huge shoot out with the police and are out carjacking I want the police to be out looking for the guy. Yes, I get the slippery slope, but I really don't think this is going to set a precedence of the police illegally entering a house without the proper legal paper work or just cause. If it does then that will definitely be an issue. As of now I have yet to hear of any related stories. And like wick said, no way that would hold up in a court of law.

[Star_Cards]

There are numerous places in States, many of them rural that want to see your accompanying ID when using a credit card.

When I encounter this, I replace the merchandise and leave the establishment, after letting them know that they just lost needed revenue as well as a customer. I was once asked for ID when retuning something to Safeway.

Showing ID to a merchant to safeguard yourself and them is nothing close to a police state, in my opinion. It's the same thing of requiring a buyer through paypal has a confirmed address. It's about reducing fraud and theft and completely different from having officers ask for ID while you are walking down the street doing nothing wrong. I will never report a merchant that wants to safeguard themselves and me at the same time by asking for ID. I have no problem showing it in these instances. It takes 10 seconds. It's not an issue. If it is then just carry cash.

I haven't been asked for id when returning items. they usually ask for the card to do the return back to the card. I have no issue with this either. It takes zero time and it's a safeguard... not a police state.

[Wickabee]

There are numerous places in States, many of them rural that want to see your accompanying ID when using a credit card.

When I encounter this, I replace the merchandise and leave the establishment, after letting them know that they just lost needed revenue as well as a customer. I was once asked for ID when retuning something to Safeway.

I got IDed all the time until the chip cards came out. No big deal. You must identify yourself at a bank in Canada. Is that wrong too?

[Wickabee]

Dosen't matter. You could be in the house making love to your woman and the police could decide to run up in your house to get a peep show. I don't want the police running up in my house for any reason unless I call them over there.

How do they know what you're doing inside?
I mean, they'd have to know you're being intimate at that moment to "decide to...get a peep show" right?

Close your curtains and you should be safe. Also, if there's a madman on the loose in your area, maybe save the intimacy for another time.

Just sayin'.

[Star_Cards]

I forgot to add, that when returning the merchandise to safeway, It had been paid for in cash.

As early as 2006 some merchants were actually asking for Social Security Numbers when you made a purchase at retail. That offensive practice has finally fallen by the wayside, as it's nobody's business what your Social Security Number is.

requiring a soc sec number is way different than showing an ID.

that is weird that they wanted id when cash was used. I'm not sure what an ID would have done in that instance. They wouldn't have been able to match anything up.

[centrehice]

Iidentifying yourself when you show up anonymously looking for cash, or in opening an account with a Financial Establishment, a form of Govt identification is required. In all countries that record keep, this is the norm. A Social Insurance Number or Social Security Number is required when opening business with any bank in Canada, or the USA as you may incur interest on those principal sources that you are funding the account with.

Interest is income and involves Revenue Canada, or the IRS.

Your bait is rancid Wick, just tell me you want to argue, it's that simple.

[Wickabee]

requiring a soc sec number is way different than showing an ID.

that is weird that they wanted id when cash was used. I'm not sure what an ID would have done in that instance. They wouldn't have been able to match anything up.

Knowing many people who are bank tellers I can tell you that asking for ID is step one in avoiding fraud. I can say with confidence that probably a good 40% of would be fraudsters are out of there the second ID is asked for.