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thank you im an old school collector and really appreciate the time and effort you took to explain the differences and brands and thanks for the links ....good luck on your findings

Hi clk21 ,

I'll do my best to help you out here.

The "Big Three" for card grading are Beckett, PSA and SGC. All are legit, and I personally wouldn't trust anybody else. All have established history within the sports card market. Who you go to really becomes a matter of preference, and can be influenced by what it is you are having graded. Many like SGC's slab for displaying vintage cards. PSA seems to be the leader in grading cards prior to 1980, and Beckett has become the go to for modern cards, as well as cards with a certified autograph.

First, here's the websites for the 3 companies:

http://www.sgccard.com/
http://www.psacard.com/
http://www.beckett.com/


The PSA holder:



With PSA, you have to register for for a "collector's club". Once this is done, and you have paid the fee, you are given a certain amount of free card gradings. The fees start at $110 annually. More on that here http://www.psacard.com/join/. Of the three, they are my personal favorite, and the only reason I don't buy more cards from PSA is that their slabs can be tampered with. The hard cases are sonically sealed, meaning sound waves are used to weld the pieces of plastic together. There are two main portions to the slab: the top portion contains a small card, or "flip", which provides details on the card contained within. The player name, card manufacturer, year, and any other card specific info are included, as well as a bar code specific to that card. The other portion contains the card itself. People have figured out how to tamper with these cases, which are clear when issued from PSA. They have discovered how to pop the slab, allowing them to remove the card, or the flip, and reseal them after inserting a fake flip, counterfeit card, or another of the same card of lower quality. PSA considers their slabs "tamper evident", in other words, they acknowledge they can be opened, but there should be tell-tale indicators of this. One is the "frosting" of the case where a break in was attempted. The clear plastic takes on the appearance of frosting, or becomes murky white. Also, they use specific typography in filling out the flip. The problem is that PSA has had different variations of flips, and sometimes it can be confusing. I have gotten pretty good at identifying tampered cases, but I'm certainly not an expert. If you are buying cards PSA graded, and ever have questions, best to ask someone here. If you are looking to grade your own cards, you need not worry about this obviously. But it is good to know as a consumer.

The SGC Holder:



SGC's fees are a little more straight forward, imo. They charge based on the value of the card, and how quickly you want to get it back. http://www.sgccard.com/grading_fees.htm They have the most attractive slab of all 3 grading companies in my opinion. They also custom fit their holders for cards of odd shapes. They will hold specials where you can get reductions on their fees.

The Beckett holder:



Finally, Beckett. Please be aware they offer three different services: Beckett Grading Services (BGS), Beckett Vintage Grading (BVG), and Beckett Club Grading (BCCG). I would not advise using Beckett Club. It's cheaper, but they don't spend the time really going over the card. It's fast food grading, imo. BGS and BVG, however, are very good. The cases used in each are like Fort Knox. You might be able to break it open, but look luck trying it. The slabs are thicker and heavier, however. As far as pricing goes, check this out: http://www.beckett.com/grading/compare_our_services

Is it worth it? That's only a question you can answer. If you are looking to sell these cards, you will get more for a graded card than a raw card. If these are for your personal collection, the cases will protect them. But this all depends on how much you need graded, what your budget is for grading, and what the ultimate goal is.

Good luck!!

Thanks for the info i will look him up its always good to save money ....

Penny sleeves & toploaders come a dime a dozen... If I was a dealer or shop owner, I'd cut collectors a break if they were valued customers, meaning they came in every week or say 2x a month... those that sell these type of supplies do not make a lot of money off them.. they make more off packs or boxes.. even though hard in today's cardboard industry.. since you can get tons of wax products online for a fraction what you would pay at the LCS...

regarding the magnetic onetouch card holders & plastic box cases, it is a little hard to make money off them.. not many collectors buy 25+ onetouch holders at a time.. especially at $1.00-1.75 each.. sometimes more.. I have skipped buying a box or two to buy supplies.. i.e. hard cases, plastic boxes & cardboard shoe boxes.. I do not like the small cardboard boxes.. I prefer the plastic boxes instead, then put them inside shoe boxes & mark what is inside them.. makes my collection look a lot nicer.. the shoe boxes then go into huge rubbermade plastic boxes I've bought from walmart or target.. prefer the ones with handles, that can snap shut.. some of the lids bend easily, if a heavy box is on top.. I only stack them 2 high.. I have about 3 filled & have enough cards to fill two more.. I've been collecting since the early 90s, but have huge gaps in my collecting years...

the penny sleeves should cost no more than $1.00 for a 100ct bag... for toploders, I've paid $1.50-2.50 for 25ct (contains 25 free pennysleeves).. those are my favorites... I hate the Ultra Pro Saver II cases.. can't remember exact name.. they are flimsy cases.. toploaders replaced them long time ago. I've had a few seller ship cards in them recently.. two were damaged, shipped by same seller. luckily, cards only cost $3.50 with shipping in PWE.. I hate PWE.. why not use a bubblemailer & toploader... ?? shipping is less than $2.00.. any collector should be happy to pay this shipping cost.. even for low dollar cards.. if you only need a few cards under a $1.00 or even 90's base cards.. ask the seller if he has any other cards he can throw in to up the price a few dollars.. no reason to buy $2-5 worth of cards.. why not make it a $10 purchase.. get a few MJ's or a Shawn Kemp card for your collection.. I only collect basketball, so I used that example..

Cheapest way to buy supplies is save up & add them to your purchase of a couple boxes.. that way you do not pay a lot extra for shipping charges.. I try to save up $500 before I buy a couple boxes.. then always add a hundred toploaders or a few magnetic onetouch holders. along with my purchase.. make it worth wild...

What i would like to see if pictures of how collectors store their collection... where in the house is it stored.. closet, under the bed, sock drawer, ect... I been thinking about this for the last few days....

I highly recommend Jersey Coast Collectibles for buying card supplies. The prices are great, and the owner is a member here at SCF. If you tell him your SCF name, he'll give you free shipping on all your orders. His username is: JerseyCoast

have a link to where u can buy that cheap?? can use some top loaders..thanks

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