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06-01-2005, 02:27 PM #1
Idiot of the Century goes to...
this idiot who made this. I was scanning the internet...and look at what I found. This guy had been on eBay around October of last year. And he saw a seller selling Babe Ruth merchandise. And guess what? He's got a COA. Look and laugh! :new_all_c
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06-01-2005, 03:12 PM #2
Who's dumber? The guy who made it or the guy who bought it? Haha.
NB: I'm right there with you on the other Scoreboard thread, bro. After seeing this COA...'nuff said.
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06-01-2005, 03:16 PM #3
:P....lol...anybody buying ScoreBoard Authenticated Stuff should just walking into a falling building....LITERALLY!!!
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06-01-2005, 03:35 PM #4
"This item was signed under the supervision of The Scord Board, Inc."
I didn't know Score Board was founded back in the 30's - 40's.
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06-01-2005, 03:43 PM #5
Kr580: They weren't. The Certificate is a FAKE!
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06-01-2005, 03:51 PM #6
lol I like in the next town over from cherry hill..where its syays that came from..freaky..
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06-01-2005, 04:01 PM #7
Actually, believe it or not the stuff Scoreboard authenticated was real, the problem was the amount of fake scoreboard COA's. You have to remember, prior to PSA/DNA etc Scoreboard was like UDA of the early 90's. They had autograph signings with the biggest names in the game back then. Now as for Babe Ruth, well...since he died before Scoreboard was even founded it's obviously a fake.
I have a Barry Bonds signed 8x10 with a Scoreboard COA. I brought it Justin Priddy, the Sr. Authenticator with GAI and he authenticated the auto, then pulled it out of the plaque it was in to put the sticker on it and lo-and behold a Scoreboard COA fell out. He looked at it, held it up to the light and commented "wow, it's even a real scoreboard COA". I now have it GAI/DNA authenticated anyway but I thought it was interesting that he was just as interested in the COA as he was the 8x10.
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06-01-2005, 04:15 PM #8
But didn't Scoreboard go out of business in like what? 1995? Actually I would call Tri-Star a ScoreBoard Clone. Not UDA. I think Tri-Star is similar. Shady people doing shady dealings with some here and there products. Selling OFF THE MARKET PRODUCTS that people can actually make themselves at home.
But ScoreBoard...IMO...is a big iffy. Thank God you got it GAI/DNA Authenticated. But I would of went PSA/DNA because more people know the name. GAI, IMO...is a way better grader than PSA though.
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06-01-2005, 04:35 PM #9
Actually Ken Goldin ran scoreboard into the ground in late 1996. He also ran Classic into the ground and is still a fixation on the Shop at home channels. Ole' Kenny became famous as the "call in voice of reason" when our buddy Don West was screaming about the importance of getting these rookie cards from them! lol...what great memories.
Tri-Star actually does in-person signings. I have set up at 5 of their shows in Kansas City. What Tri-Stars does, which is different from what SB did, is they have people buy tickets like any autograph signing, then as you pass through the lines, you have your item signed and before you are let back out into the lobby you can pay your $5 to have Tri-Star authenticate your item with a hologram and log it into their system. I did this last year for my Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, Dwight Clark and Troy Aikman items I had signed at the KC show in May last year. Tri-Star stuff is on the up and up. Scoreboard did private signings, the problem though is that when they went bankrupt a lot of their "unnamed" COA's hit the market so people could put whatever name they wanted on them, and their embossing tools also found the secondary market whcih is what you are seeing on ebay now. All of those "scoreboard emobossed" cards...yeah, everyon one of those is fake. Scoreboard emobossed various COA's and documents, but not cards. (Well except for the ones they put in the 1996 basketball set) You may also recall a company called Visions which was a spinoff from Classic as well. Yet another company Kenny G ran into the ground.
The reason I compared Scoreboard to UDA is that neither has in-person signings, they both have/had some of the biggest names in the game (SB had Mantle, Mays, Williams..you name it) and they were respected...back then. Ken Goldin has since destroyed those brand names, ran the companies into the ground and is probably regarded as one of the shadiest, most self-serving people in the hobby. All of their items made it to the secondary market and they also sold over the phone and online as well as via shop at home.
As for getting the Bonds PSA/DNA, I had it done at the show where GAI was set up. I've had great luck with them, they are very helpful and you can learn a lot if you pick their brains while they're not busy. The guys with GAI (Sean, Danny, Mike, Steve and Justin) have all been awesome every time I've talked with them. GAI is getting a lot more respect in the vintage market, the modern market is definitely still lagging. People still seem to think BGS is a good grading company. ;)
But that's for another thread. :)
I also have no intention of selling the Bonds 8x10 anyway, and I had them do 11 other items for me as well. 9 of the 11 came back legit, the only two that weren't were items I purchased from a member here, which should be made right. You'd be amazed what these guys know about autographs, it's unbelievable. He was telling me how a Ted Williams auto looks from 1989-91 because after his 2nd stroke the "W" changed to this or that...and if there's a loop in this letter then the "e" should point here, unless it's a bat, then it should be flat... my head was spinning. :)
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06-01-2005, 05:40 PM #10
Envoy: Actually scratch what I said about PSA/DNA. After what I just read...and maybe you should too since you like Auto Memorbilia. Here's the link:
http://richardsimonsports.com/hofauto2.htm
You probably know this guy very well if you have been in the industry. Scary to think that PSA is that shameful. I don't know the guy, but from the proof he's showed me...it's pretty damning on my preception on PSA/DNA.
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