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    What are their reasons?

    They will tell you it is for safety reasons.

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    They will tell you it is for safety reasons.

    Is there a reasonable basis for their position?

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    It's just too bad that our that some of our more conservative friends on here don't see it that way.

    No hard facts or sources, but I think it's fairly safe to say that the larger percentages of Muslims pose no more threat than any other religious group does. The extremist muslims are definitely bad, but I would think it's safe to say that they are in the minority. Even outside of this country I'd say that it's a good assumption that the majority of muslims are worried about the same things that we worry about for the most part... taking care of their families and having an enjoyable life. I don't live in a a huge muslim area, but the few mosques around my house have never posed any threat to my neighborhood that I know of.

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    No hard facts or sources, but I think it's fairly safe to say that the larger percentages of Muslims pose no more threat than any other religious group does. The extremist muslims are definitely bad, but I would think it's safe to say that they are in the minority. Even outside of this country I'd say that it's a good assumption that the majority of muslims are worried about the same things that we worry about for the most part... taking care of their families and having an enjoyable life. I don't live in a a huge muslim area, but the few mosques around my house have never posed any threat to my neighborhood that I know of.

    I bet you if they tried to build a mosque near where some of our conservative readers live they would run around like chickens with their heards cut off.
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    Is there a reasonable basis for their position?

    Depends on who you talk to. The one or two drivers that have encountered problems would say YES. The vast majority of the law-abiding citizens would say NO.

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    Ironic post of the day.

    I think at some point everyone has to remind themselves to do this. Everyone is wired from their experiences and sometimes it can be tough to remember that there are a lot of other points of views out there and ones experience with something doesn't mean it's the only way.

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    No hard facts or sources, but I think it's fairly safe to say that the larger percentages of Muslims pose no more threat than any other religious group does. The extremist muslims are definitely bad, but I would think it's safe to say that they are in the minority. Even outside of this country I'd say that it's a good assumption that the majority of muslims are worried about the same things that we worry about for the most part... taking care of their families and having an enjoyable life. I don't live in a a huge muslim area, but the few mosques around my house have never posed any threat to my neighborhood that I know of.

    I totally agree with this. However, it doesn't take a very high percentage of 1.5 billion to amount to a very large number.

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    I bet you if they tried to build a mosque near where some of our conservative readers live they would run around like chickens with their heards cut off.

    I wouldn't even limit it to conservatives though. I'm sure the fear crosses party or ideal boundaries.

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    I bet you if they tried to build a mosque near where some of our conservative readers live they would run around like chickens with their heards cut off.

    I would venture to say that pretty much every one of the vocal conservatives on this board wouldn't really care. I'm infinitely more concerned with the gang-related crime in my city.

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    That is simply not true. Yes, some people do believe that all Muslims are out to kill us. However, the overwhelming majority of people do not believe this, and simply acknowledging and demonstrating concern for the fact that there exist a LOT of Muslims abroad (and some at home) who want to end Western society is not being hateful.

    Your latter comment is simply laughable and unfounded. I cannot believe someone has actually convinced you of this.

    Americans like to think of their nation as a bastion of liberty and equality, and while America's political principles have certainly been based upon such ideas the truth is that Americans themselves have often been willing to abandon those ideals. Today, for example, many Americans are inclined to deny equality and liberty to the Muslims neighbors simply because they are Muslims.
    Editor & Publisher reports on a recent survey which reveals the extent to which Americans are prejudiced against Muslims and would endorse official discrimination against Muslims:

    Almost four in ten, 39%, advocate that Muslims here should carry special I.D. That same number admit that they do hold some “prejudice” against Muslims. Forty-four percent say their religious views are too “extreme.”

    In addition, 34% believe that Muslims in America support al-Qaeda while just 49% believe that American Muslims are loyal to the United States. Almost a quarter don’t want Muslims as neighbors, but people who actually know Muslims are less likely to hold any of these prejudices. So, when a person actually knows Muslims, they are less likely to be prejudiced against Muslims — this isn’t surprising because prejudice is often the product of ignorance and fear.

    At the same time, this indicates that all those who are so willing to see Muslims discriminated against probably don’t know any Muslims themselves. It’s easy to endorse discrimination when you don’t have to personally witness the harm it causes or when you don’t have toe feel empathy for those who must suffer because of it. Think about it: coming up on half of all Americans think that the religious views of American Muslims are too “extreme,” but most of these people probably don’t know any Muslims personally and so can’t claim to know what Muslims really do believe.

    Where did they get their information if they don’t know any Muslims themselves? I think we can easily come up with examples of heavily biased “news” sources, both traditional media and web sites, which encourage people to developed biased perceptions of Muslims — and other minorities, too. Does anyone want to take a bet on how many in that 44% are regular readers of Ann Coulter and regular listeners of Bill O’Reilly?


    http://atheism.about.com/b/2006/08/1...st-muslims.htm

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