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Definitely the veggie burger. Unless the eater just happens to like veggie burgers.

Iron Chef Michael Symon has a restaurant near Cleveland called The B Spot that served a veggie burger called the "Why Bother?" True story: if you like, they'll put bacon and cheese on it free of charge.

[Star_Cards]

Hey readers here is a random thought. Which is more hyprocritical? Eating a veggie burger with cheese made from cow milk and pork bacon or playing grand theft auto on the xbox while listening to gospel music that you downloaded on your hard drive?

I consider neither to be hypocritical. Some veggie burgers are very good and not all people that eat them are vegetarians or vegans.

[duane1969]

Hahaha, couldn't have guessed. I'm not a smoker, myself. But I'm supportive of their rights, and I truly feel as if they've been squashed as time goes on. If you're smoking within 10 feet of my building, guess what? I can walk 20 feet away. Problem solved.

I feel the same way! If I am in a small room with people and I have to fart I just go ahead and do it...but they might have to go farther than 20 feet.

Seriously tho, I am not judging smokers from my Ivory Tower here. I used to have a 3 pack a day habit. I developed a true hate for smoking when I lost my favorite aunt and uncle to smoking related cancer. They were a 2nd family to me and seeing them slow waste away turned me militant against smoking.

Here is some perspective. In the last 8 years we have lost 4,474 troops in Iraq. In the last week approximately 8,500 people have died from tobacco related illnesses.

[pantherfan82]

Last time I checked Dems like heat and electricity too.

There are over 600 coal fired electric plants in the U.S (compared to around 100 nuclear ones). Did the Democrats figure out a way to make them run without coal? It goes back to the same premise as alternative automotive fuels. Find a new one before you outlaw the old one.

Less coal = higher electricity production costs = higher electric bills. The next time your electric company notifies you that you rates are going up, take a deep breath of that fresh air and thank Obama and the EPA.

you can put filter type things on the smoke stacks of coal plants so that the only thing coming out of the stack is water vapor. its pretty neat

[duane1969]

you can put filter type things on the smoke stacks of coal plants so that the only thing coming out of the stack is water vapor. its pretty neat

They use those on the DOW chemical plant in Charleston, WV. You see all of these huge stacks and all that is coming out is steam. 100 feet above them it just disippates into the atmosphere.

[pghin08]

I feel the same way! If I am in a small room with people and I have to fart I just go ahead and do it...but they might have to go farther than 20 feet.

Seriously tho, I am not judging smokers from my Ivory Tower here. I used to have a 3 pack a day habit. I developed a true hate for smoking when I lost my favorite aunt and uncle to smoking related cancer. They were a 2nd family to me and seeing them slow waste away turned me militant against smoking.

Here is some perspective. In the last 8 years we have lost 4,474 troops in Iraq. In the last week approximately 8,500 people have died from tobacco related illnesses.

I'm glad that you ditched the habit. My girlfriend and I have been working on getting her mother to quit for years now. In regards to the smoker's rights issue, I think you're spot on. We all have to live on this planet, and we all have to strike compromises. One side can't always be sacrificing, and that's how I feel about smokers. We're not far away from only allowing them to smoke at home or in their cars. It's a free country, and they have as much of a right to smoke as I have to not smoke.

[sanfran22]

I'm glad that you ditched the habit. My girlfriend and I have been working on getting her mother to quit for years now. In regards to the smoker's rights issue, I think you're spot on. We all have to live on this planet, and we all have to strike compromises. One side can't always be sacrificing, and that's how I feel about smokers. We're not far away from only allowing them to smoke at home or in their cars. It's a free country, and they have as much of a right to smoke as I have to not smoke.

I actually agree with you. I'm against all this non smoking public place garbage unless it's a public entity....

[duane1969]

I have no problem with someone smoking in the open air or in their own home/car. That is their business.

However, I have issue with smoking indoors where others have no opportunity to avoid the smoke. A person has no more right to sit at the table next to me in a restarant and smoke than I have to sit next to them and play a trumpet.

[sanfran22]

I have no problem with someone smoking in the open air or in their own home/car. That is their business.

However, I have issue with smoking indoors where others have no opportunity to avoid the smoke. A person has no more right to sit at the table next to me in a restarant and smoke than I have to sit next to them and play a trumpet.

If the business wants smoking or trumpet playing, it's their choice. You don't have to frequent the business.

[duane1969]

If the business wants smoking or trumpet playing, it's their choice. You don't have to frequent the business.

I don't. I left a bar just a few weeks ago because the people in there were turning the place into a death trap. My eyes were burning for 10 minutes after I left. I have no intentions of going back.